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House approves bill to expand hydropower
Associated Press ^ | Nov 8, 9:21 PM EST | By MATTHEW DALY

Posted on 11/08/2017 11:07:42 PM PST by sparklite2

WASHINGTON (AP) -- The Republican-controlled House has approved a bill aimed at expanding hydroelectric power, an action supporters said would boost a clean source of renewable energy but opponents denounced as a giveaway to large power companies.

Only 3 percent of the nation's 80,000 dams now produce electricity. Electrifying some of the larger sites - primarily locks and dams on the Ohio, Mississippi, Alabama and Arkansas Rivers that are operated by the Army Corps of Engineers - would generate electricity for millions of homes and create thousands of jobs, an Energy Department report said.

The bill would make the Federal Energy Regulatory Commission the lead agency on hydropower licensing and require states, tribes and other federal agencies to defer to the commission.

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1 posted on 11/08/2017 11:07:42 PM PST by sparklite2
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To: sparklite2

There are times when congress makes the hair stand up on the back of my head. This action is one of them.

According to the Washington Times, taxpayers are on the hook for more than $2.2 billion in expected costs from the federal government’s energy loan guarantee programs, according to a new audit Monday that suggests the controversial projects may not pay for themselves, as officials had promised. (Heard that before?)

Nearly $1 billion in loans have already defaulted under the Energy Department program, which included the infamous Solyndra stimulus project and dozens of other green technology programs the Obama administration has approved, totaling nearly about $30 billion in taxpayer backing, the Government Accountability Office reported in its audit.

The hefty $2.2 billion price tag is actually an improvement over initial estimates, which found the government was poised to face $4 billion in losses from the loan guarantees. But as the projects have come to fruition, they’ve performed better, leaving taxpayers with a shrinking — though still sizable — liability. And the addition of the rivers and streams the AP indicated as use takes an average of 18 months to license a new natural gas plant, it can take up to 10 years or longer to license a new dam or relicense an existing dam, she and other Republicans said. So the additional expense is going to raise the bill to the taxpayers considerably.

rwood


2 posted on 11/08/2017 11:32:19 PM PST by Redwood71
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To: sparklite2

How’s that tax bill coming, scumbags?


3 posted on 11/09/2017 12:02:36 AM PST by mindburglar
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To: mindburglar

LOLOLOL

You’re so cute. The Republicans goal is to take down Trump so they can get back to raping tax payers, grifting, and pushing open borders for the cheap labor express to appease their globalist corporate donors.


4 posted on 11/09/2017 12:22:58 AM PST by snarkytart
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To: Redwood71; sparklite2
This sounds like a great jobs program for Environmentalist Lawyers.

How many snail darters will die because of these dams?!!!!!

5 posted on 11/09/2017 12:33:11 AM PST by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.L)
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To: Redwood71

I didn’t see where the bill would have the government guaranteeing loans for the new generators.


6 posted on 11/09/2017 1:27:30 AM PST by House Atreides (BOYCOTT the NFL, its products and players 100% - PERMANENTLY)
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To: snarkytart

Agree 150%. They’re real busy lining their pockets as they prepare for life after being voted out of office.


7 posted on 11/09/2017 1:43:51 AM PST by grania (Deplorable and Proud of It!)
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To: sparklite2

I have never understood the disinterest in hydroelectricity. The dams are all in place and well kept by the Corp of Engineers. The cost of adding power plants to them should not be cost preventive.


8 posted on 11/09/2017 4:38:23 AM PST by elpadre (AfganistaMr Obama said theoal was to "disrupt, dismantle and defeat al-hereQaeda" and its allies.)
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To: sparklite2

Kinda hard to do when environmentalists keep tearing down dams in the name of saving fish species.


9 posted on 11/09/2017 5:49:01 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: sparklite2

Hey, we gotta protest that! It might inconvenience some poor fishies! < /envirowhacko speak >


10 posted on 11/09/2017 7:37:51 AM PST by JimRed ( TERM LIMITS, NOW! Build the Wall Faster! TRUTH is the new HATE SPEECH.)
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To: grania
Agree 150%. They’re real busy lining their pockets as they prepare for life after being voted out of office.

And that is easily preventable. Simply require ALL political donations to be ANONYMOUS. You can't sell influence if you don't know who is buying. Americans should be allowed to donate any amount they wish to any candidate or party; that is FREEDOM. But purchasing an outcome is BRIBERY, a CRIME. Proceed accordingly with prison time for violators.

11 posted on 11/09/2017 7:43:53 AM PST by JimRed ( TERM LIMITS, NOW! Build the Wall Faster! TRUTH is the new HATE SPEECH.)
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To: House Atreides

Sorry if I led you to believe the new projects were involved with guaranteed loans involved. That was accomplished during the Obama fallacy. This bill 257-166, was just to get the ball rolling using taxpayers money. And in Washington, it might as well be the same thing.

If I read the bill right, the Army Corps of Engineers will be tasked with the project. The current hiring rate for a civil engineer within the Corp of Engineers can reach $106K per year. A project manager $130K, a project engineer $92K (he’s cheap), and an electrical engineer $101K. Numerous of these are going to be required to try to commit as many as 80 damns that can be converted. So we have already reached a long way toward $1M just to establish what the top dogs are going to make for one project. Not a circuit purchased, not one electrical contractor hired, not even an environmental impact statement requested, and the taxpayers are already in the hole, with not one shovel of dirt in sight yet.

They are estimating many years before the light at the end of the tunnel for something we already really have becomes visible. So the added cost of the failure of the first effort to the time and expense of the second multi, multi-billion dollar investment with an economy that I don’t feel can handle the stress of another shock, could be very destructive. Government needs to consider getting off their heels and back on their feet before this effort.

Our economy is not based upon government subsidy. It is based upon self sustainment by public companies. With Social Security and Medicare funds depleting at an alarming rate, our states’ infrastructures breaking down from lack of funds and attention, the job providers being taxed into not hiring or creating jobs with a live-able wage and still pay their commitments, and healthcare crashing in upon itself, now may not be the time to throw funds at a project that can try to hold its own for more people needings essentials long enough to recover enough to start forward. I just don’t feel now is the time to gamble such a great expense with not a whole lot in the cupboard mother Hubbard.

rwood


12 posted on 11/09/2017 11:19:47 AM PST by Redwood71
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To: Pontiac

“This sounds like a great jobs program for Environmentalist Lawyers.”

This is the type of government red tape that can eat the green stuff alive. They may have to double the costs by printing more money so they can use established tax levels with the money being worth half of what it is now, to increase taxes to save us from ourselves. Oh aren’t we so lucky to have such a caring group of civil servants running amok out there? Bet part of the bill ends up with pay increase for them so they can hunt down other projects to suck up for them? I can see it.

rwood


13 posted on 11/09/2017 11:28:52 AM PST by Redwood71
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To: sparklite2

New tagline.


14 posted on 11/09/2017 11:26:16 PM PST by mindburglar (I have an above average brain stem)
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