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A Tax Loophole for the Rich That Just Won’t Die
NY Times ^ | November 9, 2017 | James B. Stewart

Posted on 11/10/2017 5:31:05 AM PST by C19fan

After the billionaire investor Warren Buffett exposed the unfairness of a federal tax code that assessed his secretary at a higher rate than him, it was hard to imagine a tax reform plan that would be even less fair.

House Republicans have come up with one.

That’s not because the plan indiscriminately favors the rich. It’s because to a degree unprecedented in American tax history, it favors the investor class, Mr. Buffett prominent among them, at the expense of people who work for a living, like his secretary.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: taxes
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To: C19fan

Perhaps not, but this worthless drivel drones on and on without saying much and it leaves out the biggest tax loopholes for the wealthy in existence.

Trust funds and foreign shell companies.

I suspect the Sulzbergers won’t ever be addressing those in their fish wrap.


21 posted on 11/10/2017 6:11:43 AM PST by MrEdd (Caveat Emptor)
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To: SES1066
Except with a lot of the carried interest treatment there is no initial investment. Every time I hear about it, it looks more and more like a tax scheme to count salary as capital gains.

My cure for this is to charge normal tax rates for all capital gains but increase the cost basis by the inflation rate. That way these carried interest schemes will have zero cost basis and be hit with the full tax.

22 posted on 11/10/2017 6:31:34 AM PST by KarlInOhio (The Whig Party died when it fled the great fight of its century. Ditto for the Republicans now.)
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To: Mouton

“Gains” due to inflation of long held assets should never be taxed.


23 posted on 11/10/2017 6:38:08 AM PST by Paladin2 (No spelchk nor wrong word auto substition on mobile dev. Please be intelligent and deal with it....)
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To: C19fan

“exposed the unfairness of a federal tax code that assessed his secretary at a higher rate than him, it was hard to imagine a tax reform plan that would be even less fair.”

Let’s see...without getting into the absolute effective tax rate....

28% x 1,000,000,000 = $280,000,000

35% x 200,000 = $70,000

Who is defining “fair” here?


24 posted on 11/10/2017 6:57:14 AM PST by G Larry (There is no great virtue in bargaining with the Devil)
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To: PapaBear3625

And labor unions. Lots of so called charitable organizations are political and should pay taxes.


25 posted on 11/10/2017 7:14:34 AM PST by Rusty0604
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To: C19fan

Buffet owes million & millions in back taxes. He has fought the IRS for years, and nothing seems to get resolved.

Would like to see what kind of deficit reduction we could achieve if he paid up & loans from other countries could get paid back.

His ‘secretary’ only gets to pay more because SHE IS ACTUALLY PAYING HER INCOME TAXES....Buffet is NOT doing so.


26 posted on 11/10/2017 8:08:40 AM PST by ridesthemiles
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To: C19fan

Buffet owes million & millions in back taxes. He has fought the IRS for years, and nothing seems to get resolved.

Would like to see what kind of deficit reduction we could achieve if he paid up & loans from other countries could get paid back.

His ‘secretary’ only gets to pay more because SHE IS ACTUALLY PAYING HER INCOME TAXES....Buffet is NOT doing so.


27 posted on 11/10/2017 8:12:23 AM PST by ridesthemiles
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To: napscoordinator
As a man I once worked for once said, profits are bad expenses are good. He earned only a modest income as president and sole officer of his corporation, however the corporation owned homes, cars, retail property, etc.
28 posted on 11/10/2017 9:10:14 AM PST by Mastador1 (I'll take a bad dog over a good politician any day!)
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To: Mouton

Not quite the same. The investment is much more at risk than in the bank. Not all stock is sold at a gain. Stock in a company is the same as buying a piece of property.

Uncle sugar has his hand out when you make money and slow walks deductions for losses and they can only be used against capital gains for stocks held the same period.

Short term gains are taxed as regular income. Would that make you happy?

Put your money at risk in companies and let me see how that works out and how you feel when your risk is taxed as regular income.


29 posted on 11/10/2017 5:11:43 PM PST by Sequoyah101 (It feels like we have exchanged our dreams for survival. We just have a few days that don't suck.)
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To: Moonman62

I predict that when Buffett dies, all the dirt on him will come to light, and he will be exposed as a charlatan on par with Armand Hammer.


30 posted on 11/10/2017 6:01:35 PM PST by Huntress ("Politicians exploit economic illiteracy." --Walter Williams)
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To: Sequoyah101

When you buy a Corp bond you are at risk too and the interest is ordinary tax rate


31 posted on 11/10/2017 6:53:15 PM PST by Mouton (The MSM is a clear and present danger to the republic.)
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To: Mouton

Still not quite the same. Bond holders stand in front of share holders if there is a failure I believe.


32 posted on 11/10/2017 7:02:42 PM PST by Sequoyah101 (It feels like we have exchanged our dreams for survival. We just have a few days that don't suck.)
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To: Sequoyah101

In a chap seven or eleven that is correct. Regardless they will not get 100%

My point is unless you started the business or bought stock in a secondary your investment provides no new capital and for the tax code to consider it as business capital formation is a perversion of the term.


33 posted on 11/10/2017 7:21:18 PM PST by Mouton (The MSM is a clear and present danger to the republic.)
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