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Who exactly is signing up for ObamaCare?
American Thinker.com ^ | November 27, 2017 | Silvio Canto, Jr

Posted on 11/27/2017 7:57:30 AM PST by Kaslin

We hear about this surge in ObamaCare enrollments.

The San Francisco Chronicle is even asserting that "the public embrace of the Affordable Care Act amounts to a stark rejection of administration and Republican policy".

Maybe we can call it something like the revenge of the AHA.

The editorial spends a lot of time bashing Trump but it does not say anything about the economic state of the people signing up. In other words, are these AHA policyholders going to pay their own premiums or will they be subsidized in some fashion?

We don't know but the answer matters a lot.

A week ago, the New York Times wrote another article about ObamaCare. It gave us a glimpse about the dilemma of the middle class, or the people who have to pay their own way. This is how they described the state of the AHA:

(Excerpt) Read more at americanthinker.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Government
KEYWORDS: 0bamacare; 0carenightmare; enrollment; obamacare; obamacareenrollment
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1 posted on 11/27/2017 7:57:30 AM PST by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

I can’t imagine using it. But I must be unique since we have zero health insurance since 1/1/2014, the day Obamacare became the law of the land.

It’s been a struggle to keep my taxable income low enough for the 8% rule to protect us from paying a penalty, but fortunately even the pretty much worthless bronze plan is really expensive.


2 posted on 11/27/2017 8:02:34 AM PST by robroys woman (So you're not confused, I'm male.)
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To: Kaslin

A few years ago, my daughter signed up for a stinker of an Obamacare plan. It was heavily subsidized and offered virtually no coverage. The closest doctor was something like 50 miles away, $5000 deductible before any coverage kicked in. Don’t know too many 20 somethings that spend that much.

She signed up just because the subsidized cost was lower than the fine for not getting it.

The minute she got a better job, she canceled that waste of money. Then later, she had to fight for her tax refund because they wanted to keep it to pay for her subsidy. She won that one.


3 posted on 11/27/2017 8:03:45 AM PST by cyclotic (Trump tweets are the only news source you can trust.)
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To: Kaslin

There are a lot of people using the exchanges and Obamacare simply because otherwise they could not afford any kind of insurance at all.

I have Obamacare and if I didn’t then I would be paying something like over $800 a month for insurance which I can’t afford. So there are plenty of people like me taking advantage of it so they can have some sort of coverage.

I have been lucky in my own market in that I have had good choices and able to get a good policy. Some markets have little choice and as a consequence they are paying a lot even with the subsidy. It’s a screwed system.

We are all being screwed by the gigantic fraud we all let ourselves get hit with in the Medical System. We could lower costs a great deal if enforced Sherman Anti-Trust against the Medical Monopolies but we don’t demand it, so here is what we are stuck with.


4 posted on 11/27/2017 8:07:24 AM PST by Captain Peter Blood
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To: Kaslin

The undocumented.


5 posted on 11/27/2017 8:16:22 AM PST by browniexyz
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To: Kaslin

There is no consequence of repealing Obamacare that is worse than Obamacare itself.


6 posted on 11/27/2017 8:17:52 AM PST by Mr. K (There is no consequence of repealing Obamacare that is worse than Obamacare itself.)
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To: Kaslin

Freebie seekers?


7 posted on 11/27/2017 8:19:14 AM PST by JimRed ( TERM LIMITS, NOW! Build the Wall Faster! TRUTH is the new HATE SPEECH.)
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To: Kaslin
I am on it, but I have no other choice. My wife and I both have pre-existing conditions and we can not get coverage for those conditions in the open market. The insurance sucks too. High deductible and outrageous rates so we have to take the subsidies. Without subsidies, I would have paid $21K in premiums for 2017.
It is working the way the dems wanted it to work; force people on the exchanges with high premiums and force them to take the subsidies.
8 posted on 11/27/2017 8:26:07 AM PST by martinidon
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To: Kaslin

People who were on the state Medicaid rolls and people who get the low income subsidy of premiums.


9 posted on 11/27/2017 8:30:25 AM PST by tired&retired (Blessings)
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One of the problems is that people don’t want to work as they are afraid of mak8ng too much money and losing their free insurance, food stamps, Tax Credits....

A friend of mine has about 70 employees and he can’t get people to work overtime when prior to O-care people were begging for OT.


10 posted on 11/27/2017 8:37:00 AM PST by tired&retired (Blessings)
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To: Kaslin; All

Consider the possibility (imo) that the corrupt, uniparty Congress may be enrolling citizens, as well as illegal aliens, in Obamacare without their knowledge.


11 posted on 11/27/2017 8:55:55 AM PST by Amendment10
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To: robroys woman

I refuse. No healthcare is my protest. Just don’t tell anyone.


12 posted on 11/27/2017 9:12:20 AM PST by huldah1776 ( Vote Pro-life! Allow God to bless America before He avenges the death of the innocent.)
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To: tired&retired
A friend of mine has about 70 employees and he can’t get people to work overtime when prior to O-care people were begging for OT.

I work in a plant roughly three times that size and we have the same problem.

13 posted on 11/27/2017 9:12:41 AM PST by Vigilanteman (ObaMao: Fake America, Fake Messiah, Fake Black man. How many fakes can you fit into one Zer0?)
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To: Kaslin

I signed up with anthem at work and the cost for individual is $200.20 for medical + $29.70 dental + $3.45 vision a month
Approx $3,100 a year. Family much higher.

Why do you pay the high costs?
Anthem ceo gets $16.5 million a year. That includes a $3 million pay hike from last year. His competitors ceo’s make even more.

obamacare was starting at $10,000 deductible and several thousand a year when I checked it out. In other words no coverage. You just pay the ceo’s and the democrat party with cash and in the end your life.

Anthem prices will go up as they are in a court battle over a merger that did not happen.

Cigna is suing Anthem in a separate court case for $13 billion, plus the breakup fee
https://nypost.com/2017/03/20/anthem-ceos-3m-salary-hike-draws-criticism-from-wall-street/


14 posted on 11/27/2017 9:13:28 AM PST by minnesota_bound
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To: huldah1776

Same here, but I tell the world. ;)


15 posted on 11/27/2017 9:17:49 AM PST by robroys woman (So you're not confused, I'm male.)
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To: cyclotic

Why bother with health insurance if it doesn’t cover anything. I could never understand that nonsense. I am glad your doctor won her case


16 posted on 11/27/2017 9:18:43 AM PST by Kaslin (Quid est Veritas?: What Is Truth?)
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To: Kaslin

Not enough of them. The fund is still sucking down medicare and social security funds thus destroying those commitments.

rwood


17 posted on 11/27/2017 11:01:15 AM PST by Redwood71 (uality, they want better)
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Not enough of them. The fund is still sucking down medicare and social security funds thus destroying those commitments.

rwood


18 posted on 11/27/2017 11:02:20 AM PST by Redwood71 (uality, they want better)
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To: martinidon

You are using the exchange because of the premium cost. You could still buy coverage even with the preexisting conditions because they can’t offer policies that deny coverage.

I know because I just did it and have every year since barky care began.

I paid $21K in premiums in 2017. I’ve always paid my way and everyone else’s to boot.


19 posted on 11/27/2017 6:37:54 PM PST by Sequoyah101 (It feels like we have exchanged our dreams for survival. We just have a few days that don't suck.)
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To: Kaslin

It is a scam and a stupid mess.

In our area for two of us, if we make about $62,000 we get a FULL subsidy and a Silver policy. If we make $62,000 plus ONE penny we get NO subsidy at all and pay $24,000 a year for a crappy Bronze plan that we have to pay an additional $4,500 a year per person in costs just to get the first covered dollar.

That one penny suddenly magically transports us from poverty to suddenly being richer than four feet up a bulls ass and flush with an additional $24,000 in cash.

What kind of a program is that?.


20 posted on 11/27/2017 6:45:04 PM PST by Sequoyah101 (It feels like we have exchanged our dreams for survival. We just have a few days that don't suck.)
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