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To: exDemMom
"Our techniques have improved greatly in the last few decades, but we've been genetically modifying foods for millennia."

Yes, but those GMO foods were only made by selective breeding or cross-breeding, and the modified genes came from organisms within the recipient's same genus - with maybe a few rare instances of genes coming from a different genus but at least from within the same genetic family.

The difference with our current GMO foods is that many of them are being made by genetic engineering techniques with genes being spliced in that come from not just outside of the recipient's genetic family, but from outside of the recipient's genetic order, class, phylum and even kingdom. We are even splicing genes from viruses and bacteria into our foods. That is not something we've been doing for millennia.
34 posted on 12/07/2017 6:06:04 PM PST by Garth Tater (Gone Galt and I ain't coming back.)
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To: Garth Tater

Exactamundo.


43 posted on 12/07/2017 10:31:37 PM PST by logi_cal869 (-cynicus-)
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To: Garth Tater
The difference with our current GMO foods is that many of them are being made by genetic engineering techniques with genes being spliced in that come from not just outside of the recipient's genetic family, but from outside of the recipient's genetic order, class, phylum and even kingdom. We are even splicing genes from viruses and bacteria into our foods.

You again.

My goodness, where to start?

The significance of inserting a single gene from one organism into another is... nothing. Lateral gene transfers occur frequently in nature. In fact, every time you get a viral infection, those viruses insert their entire genome into your cells. Usually, they force your cells to become virus factories. But not always. Sometimes, they integrate into your chromosomes and become a permanent part of your genome. Sometimes, they integrate into the chromosomes in germ cells, where they can become a permanent part of the human genome. Our genome, in fact, contains anywhere from 5-8% of viral DNA. One protein that is essential for the formation of the placenta is coded by a virus that became part of the mammalian genome millions of years ago.

Of course, every time you consume food, you consume significant quantities of DNA from other organisms--including organisms of completely different kingdoms. (Quick biology lesson: the five kingdoms are bacteria, archaea, fungus, plant, and animal.) Have you had adverse effects from that? I doubt it, unless the DNA was inside of a pathogen.

I'm not surprised you don't know this, actually. You didn't even know that CO2 is the basic building block of *all* biological molecules (no exceptions).

If someone were trying to engineer botulinum toxin into lettuce or something like that, I'd be worried. But engineering plants to be resistant to rust or insects or whatever--it's no big deal. We've been engineering other organisms for millennia. Our tools have gotten much better, that's all.

Have you ever considered maybe taking some basic science classes before you try to match wits against an experienced scientist again?

59 posted on 12/08/2017 5:15:43 PM PST by exDemMom (Current visual of the hole the US continues to dig itself into: http://www.usdebtclock.org/)
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