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California gov: Trump doesn’t fear God or ‘existential consequences’
The Hill ^ | 12/9/17 | Julia Manchester

Posted on 12/09/2017 11:05:28 AM PST by Lera

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To: Artemis Webb; vette6387; sheik yerbouty

There is no profanity adequate to describe what a worthless POS Moonbeam and his cronies are.

They must have been conceived in some sewer or under a rock.


81 posted on 12/09/2017 1:17:28 PM PST by ExTexasRedhead
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To: heights

Jesuits did not destroy the Catholic Church.

Modernist, Proportionalist, theologians and ignorant and leftist Bishops have damaged it. But She will never be destroyed. Christ promised that.


82 posted on 12/09/2017 1:18:15 PM PST by amihow
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To: Dr. Sivana

Best post on thread!!!!


83 posted on 12/09/2017 1:19:27 PM PST by amihow
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To: Gasshog
Brown was a member of the California Cadet Corps at St. Ignatius High School, where he graduated in 1955. In 1955, Brown entered Santa Clara University for a year and left to attend Sacred Heart Novitiate, a Jesuit novice house, intent on becoming a Catholic priest.

Well moonbeam got the queer part down. Despite his beard and friends saying that moonbeam is Catholic, that's bullshit, he is a buddhist and gaia worshipper and has been for many years.

Moonbeam has preached and evangelized the church of gaia for decades.

84 posted on 12/09/2017 1:23:11 PM PST by Mastador1 (I'll take a bad dog over a good politician any day!)
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To: Lera

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Moonbeam once told me “God is for those who need one.”

I asked him “how many do you have” and he just chukled and grinned.


85 posted on 12/09/2017 1:28:51 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: Lera

Wrong title. California does not fear God and Trump is doing all he can to be sure the other 49 States do.


86 posted on 12/09/2017 1:29:36 PM PST by mulligan (The)
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To: faithhopecharity

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>> “and to think Brown is about the best politico that Californcation has managed to elect!” <<

You missed out on Willie Brown?

Is your last name VanWinkle?
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87 posted on 12/09/2017 1:32:49 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: mass55th

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>>”Does Brownie even believe in God?” <<

Brown is a jesuit. he believes what Jesuits, Freemasons, Mormons and Muslims believe: That men become gods.
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88 posted on 12/09/2017 1:36:14 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: Artemis Webb

Governor Moonbeam or Governor Moroonbeam


89 posted on 12/09/2017 1:41:04 PM PST by faucetman (Ju"st the facts, ma'am, Just the facts)
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To: editor-surveyor
Ha! Willie — imho one of the most corrupt politicos in history. No I didn’t forget him - wish I could👹
90 posted on 12/09/2017 1:41:33 PM PST by faithhopecharity (“Politicians aren’t born, they’re excreted.” - Marcus Tillius Cicero (3 BCE))
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To: Lera

Ha!

Your right, Jerry, President Trump fears NOTHING!


91 posted on 12/09/2017 1:44:38 PM PST by CharleysPride (Vaya Con Dios Eli, great career, man. Ole Miss still sucks, of course.)
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To: faithhopecharity

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Willie was not corrupt; he was just so smooth and effective that it made one think so.

He learned from the bottom and rose to the top.

The rest start out on top, and sink to the bottom.
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92 posted on 12/09/2017 1:47:56 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: Lera

I thought it was illegal to invoke “God” and “moonbeam” in the same sentence?


93 posted on 12/09/2017 2:03:08 PM PST by Dick Bachert (Why are damn near ALL the SEX FIENDS Democrats?)
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To: Lera; All
Perhaps Brown's simplistic, and political, statements on the fear of "the Lord" or "fear of the wrath of God" needs to be balanced by the wisdom of the following observations of Dr. Russell Kirk:
"Before I began to think much on the spiritual diseases of our century, I revolted against the disgusting smugness of modern America—particularly the complacency of professors and clergymen, the flabby clerisy of a sensate time.

Once I found myself in a circle of scholars who were discussing solemnly the conditions necessary for arriving at scientific truth. Chiefly from a perverse impulse to shock the Academy of Lagado, perhaps, I muttered, 'We have to begin with the dogma that the fear of God is the beginning of wisdom.' I succeeded in scandalizing.

Some gentlemen and scholars took this for indecent levity; others, unable to convince themselves that anyone could mean this literally, groped for the presumptive allegorical or symbolical meaning behind my words.

But two or three churchgoers in the gathering were not displeased. These were given to passing the collection plate and to looking upon the church as a means to social reform; incense, vestments, and the liturgy have their aesthetic charms, even among doctors of philosophy. Faintly pleased, yes, these latter professors, to hear the echo of fife and drum ecclesiastic; but also embarrassed at such radicalism.

"'Oh no,'“ they murmured, 'not the fear of God. You mean the love of God, don’t you?'”

For them the word of Scriptures was no warrant, their Anglo-Catholicism notwithstanding. With Henry Ward Beecher, they were eager to declare that God is Love—-though hardly a love which passes all understanding. Theirs was a thoroughly permissive God the Father, properly instructed by Freud.

Looking upon their mild and diffident faces, I wondered how much trust I might put in such love as they knew.

Their meekness was not that of Moses. Meek before Jehovah, Moses had no fear of Pharaoh; but these doctors of the schools, much at ease in Zion, were timid in the presence of a traffic policeman. Although convinced that God is too indulgent to punish much of anything, they were given to trembling before Caesar.

Christian love is the willingness to sacrifice oneself; yet I would not have counted upon these gentlemen to adventure anything of consequence for my sake, nor even for those with greater claims upon them. I doubted whether the Lord would adventure much on their behalf. . . . The great grim Love which makes Hell a part of the nature of things, my colleagues could not apprehend. And, lacking knowledge of that Love, at once compassionate and retributive, their sort may bring us presently to a terrestrial hell, which is the absence of God from the affairs of men. . . .

Every age portrays God in the image of its poetry and politics.

In one century, God is an absolute monarch, exacting his due; in another century still an absolute sovereign, but a benevolent despot; again, perhaps a grand gentleman among aristocrats; at a different time, a democratic president, with an eye to the ballot box.

It has been said that to many of our generation, God is a Republican and works in a bank; but this image is giving way, I think, to God as Chum—at worst, God as a playground supervisor. So much for the images. But in reality God does not alter. . . .

What raises up heroes and martyrs is the fear of God. Beside the terror of God’s judgment, the atrocities of the totalist tyrant are pinpricks. A God-intoxicated man, knowing that divine love and divine wrath are but different aspects of a unity, is sustained against the worst this world can do to him; while the goodnatured unambitious man, lacking religion, fearing no ultimate judgment, denying that he is made for eternity, has in him no iron to maintain order and justice and freedom.

Mere enlightened self-interest will submit to any strong evil. In one aspect or another, fear insists upon forcing itself into our lives. If the fear of God is obscured, then obsessive fear of suffering, poverty, and sickness will come to the front; or if a well-cushioned state keeps most of these worries at bay, then the tormenting neuroses of modern man, under the labels of “insecurity” and “anxiety” and “constitutional inferiority,” will be the dominant mode of fear. And these latter forms of fear are the more dismaying, for there are disciplines by which one may diminish one’s fear of God. But to remedy the causes of fear from the troubles of our time is beyond the power of the ordinary individual; and to put the neuroses to sleep, supposing any belief in a transcendent order to be absent, there is only the chilly comfort of the analyst’s couch or the tranquilizing drug.

By fashionable philodoxies (opinions) of our modern era, by our dominant system of education, by the tone of the serious and the popular press, by the assumptions of the politicians, by most of the sermons to the churchgoers, post-Christian man has been persuaded to do what man always has longed to do—that is, to forget the fear of the Lord. And with that fear have also departed his wisdom and his courage.

. . . . Freedom from fear, if I read St. John aright, is one of the planks in the platform of the Antichrist. But that freedom is delusory and evanescent, and is purchased only at the cost of spiritual and political enslavement. In ends at Armageddon.

So in our time, as Yeats saw, Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold; Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world, The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere The ceremony of innocence is drowned; The best lack all conviction, while the worst Are full of passionate intensity. Lacking conviction that the fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom, the captains and the kings yield to the fierce ideologues, the merciless adventurers, the charlatans and the metaphysically mad. And then, truly, when the stern and righteous God of fear and love has been denied, the Savage God lays down his new commandments.

Sincere God-fearing men, I believe, are now a scattered remnant.

Yet as it was with Isaiah, so it may yet be with us, that disaster brings consciousness of that stubborn remnant and brings, too, a renewed knowledge of the source of wisdom. Truth and hardihood may find a lodging in some modern hearts when the new schoolmen and the parsons, or some of them, are brought to confess that it is a terrible thing to be delivered into the hands of the living God. . . ." - "The Rarity of the God-Fearing Man" - Russell Kirk.


94 posted on 12/09/2017 2:26:59 PM PST by loveliberty2
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To: rlmorel

Probably irritates God, too.


95 posted on 12/09/2017 2:29:22 PM PST by Pining_4_TX (For they sow the wind, and they shall reap the whirlwind. ~ Hosea 8:7)
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To: Gasshog

Even Pelosi has been invoking God’s name lately. People do that when they are afraid of dying.

What about the fires of California have the governor afraid? His mismanagement of the state?

Who started the fires?


96 posted on 12/09/2017 2:30:59 PM PST by Lopeover ( The 2016 Election is about allegiance to the United States!)
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To: Lera

President Trump has never gone snipe hunting, doesn’t believe in ghosts, and scary stories do not frighten him.


97 posted on 12/09/2017 2:32:32 PM PST by WMarshal (John McCain is the turd in America's punch bowl. McLame cannot even fake an injury.)
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To: Lopeover
Dan'l Malloy, gov of Connecticut.

He's finished burning this state to the ground...and has moved on to the left coast


98 posted on 12/09/2017 2:33:23 PM PST by Daffynition (The New PTSD: PRESIDENT-Trump Stress Disorder - The LSN didnÂ’t make Trump, so they can't break him)
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To: Lera

Seems to me Jer that California should have heeded hot words


99 posted on 12/09/2017 3:08:37 PM PST by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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To: Lera

Jerry Brown, ex-Jesuit seminarian, doesn’t fear God at all in his agreement with abortion practices.
Hey Jerry, stop playing theologian, leave that up to Nancy P.


100 posted on 12/09/2017 3:58:13 PM PST by 353FMG
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