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To: Redwood71

This is not an ideological move on these folks part. It may be for some, but I have known Roherbacher for over 20 years. He’s a great solid Conservative.

He lives in a state where the SALT situation may anger some constitutions. When this bill was going to pass anyway, it would be a suicidal and wasted vote for him to vote for this bill.

This IS NOT a situation where he voted against us to effect blockage of a bill. Comparing him to McCain, Collins, and others wouldn’t be right.

We need to keep his seat, so that when an important bill comes up and the vote is close, he can help us.

If this was ideological on his part, it would come from a Conservative vantage point. I won’t fault a guy for that either.

We got the bill we want. I’d have to go through and study each no vote before I would sign on to trashing these folks.


82 posted on 12/20/2017 10:57:58 AM PST by DoughtyOne (McConnell, Ryan, and the whole GOPe are dead to me. Are Alabamans tired of winning?)
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To: DoughtyOne

We’ve been folding up either all or partial for 60 years and it’s time we stopped placating a group of people that will cut our throats out if they thought it would give them more power or wealth. Every little scrap we give them is an encouragement to try something else. Until the conservative party puts their boot edge into their throats every time, and hammers them into submission, it invites recklessness like we have seen in the past that has done a lot of damage to this country. It places the possibility of empowerment into their minds that they can say and do anything they want no matter how much damage it does, no matter who gets hurt, or how.

And even when they are not in the majority, they get stupid and do things that in some cases could be considered certifiable.

For the first time in my lifetime, at least, we have a president that is willing to go balls to the wall and do the tough love this country needs. We tried diplomacy, we tried deal making, we tried sharing, we tried ignoring, we even allowed them to take control during our controlling times and make decisions for us, and all it got us was our a$$ handed to us. Going in the tank to keep a seat I can promise you was not awarded based upon liberal votes, to placate people is not keeping a seat. It’s retreat. Now is the time to act, not withdraw. You don’t keep land by letting them have any. Look what we did to the plains Indians. They let the white eyes have a little land. And it got the people of their land put in reservations when they successfully lived with the land for thousands of years. Their problem wasn’t being able to sustain a life on the land, it was us saying they couldn’t. And we had no idea what we were talking about.

If you want the responsibility of doing the job the way the voters do, it is no longer to be “fair.” Fair gets you the ACA, the draining of funds in lieu of social programs, illicit welfare, illegal aliens and their protection, sharia law, questionable education of our youth, accepted immoralities and their approval like condoms in schools, open lies that never get called on.. .......it just never stops. It has to BE stopped.

And you don’t do it by giving them an inch. Backing off a bill to give them that inch shows weakness and invites attacks. Don’t give them the chance.

rwood


84 posted on 12/21/2017 5:09:30 AM PST by Redwood71
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