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Tip Regulations Under the Fair Labor Standards Act (FLSA)
Federal Regiser ^ | 12/05/2017 | Wage and Hour Division, Department of Labor.

Posted on 12/26/2017 12:00:49 AM PST by LeoWindhorse

The Department of Labor (Department) is proposing to rescind portions of its tip regulations issued pursuant to the Fair Labor Standards Act that impose restrictions on employers that pay a direct cash wage of at least the full federal minimum wage and do not seek to use a portion of tips as a credit toward their minimum wage obligations. This Notice of Proposed Rulemaking (NPRM) seeks the views of the public on the Department's proposed rescission of those portions of the regulations.

(Excerpt) Read more at federalregister.gov ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: tips
I can hardly believe this
1 posted on 12/26/2017 12:00:49 AM PST by LeoWindhorse
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To: LeoWindhorse

Why? If tipped workers don’t like it they can get a real job.


2 posted on 12/26/2017 12:21:46 AM PST by Alter Kaker (Gravitation is a theory, not a fact. It should be approached with an open mind...)
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To: Alter Kaker

You think that a job that gets tips isn’t a real job?


3 posted on 12/26/2017 12:25:46 AM PST by Gigantor (Either the United States respects its Constitution, or there is no need for a United States.)
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To: LeoWindhorse

Go look in a Las Vegas employee parking lot and get back to us. There are places where you wouldn’t want to work. Like graveyard shift at waffle house.


4 posted on 12/26/2017 1:11:46 AM PST by Fhios (1987: Where's Waldo -- 2017: Where's Jeff Sessions.)
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To: LeoWindhorse
So beyond all of the analysis, here are the bottom-line changes:

So it appears that an employer will be able to keep tips if the employer pays the tipped staff at least a full minimum wage.

Bottom line: if I was a waiter, I would not deal with this situation well (nor, frankly, would I ever deal with tip pooling well, but that's a different subject).

As a customer, I would want to know if the tip goes to the waiter/waitress I'm tipping or if it goes to the owner. As long as there is full disclosure to the person who gives the tip, I'm OK with it.

(If the tip goes to the owner, I would end up changing my behavior as a customer...slipping the tip to the waiter/waitress in cash, quietly)

5 posted on 12/26/2017 2:44:02 AM PST by markomalley (Nothing emboldens the wicked so greatly as the lack of courage on the part of the good -- Leo XIII)
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To: markomalley

From what I have seem being married to a waitress she would have get paid at least 3 times what the minimum wage is an hour to make of for her tips.


6 posted on 12/26/2017 2:55:14 AM PST by riverrunner
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To: LeoWindhorse
My reading of this is that it pertains to employers who pay a cash wage of at least the federal minimum wage and therefore does not utilize a tip credit (using part of the worker’s tips to bring them up to the federal minimum wage if their cash wage is less) and the current rules regarding tip pooling.

Employers who pay less than the federal minimum wage and utilize a tip credit to make up the difference are subject to special rules regarding tip pooling. Traditionally all tips belong to the service facing work (servers, bartenders, bussers) and the employer cannot force them to share their tips with back of house workers (cooks, dishwashers, etc.) unless they enter into that tip sharing agreement voluntarily. Furthermore, if there is a tip pooling arrangement, only that portion of the tip the server actually receives can be counted toward a tip credit. A 2011 regulation extended the regulation regarding tip pooling to include employers who, either because they choose to or because state minimum wage laws require it, pay servers at least the federal minimum wage.

Under the proposed DOL rule change, an employer with tipped workers who pays them a cash wage of at least the federal minimum, can determine that the tips the servers receive are no longer the property of the server and can distribute them amongst all workers as they see fit, or even for management to keep all or a portion of them.

This article does a fairly good job of explaining the proposed rule change and the pro and cons of it from several different perspectives.

https://www.eater.com/2017/12/5/16708374/tipping-laws-trump-department-of-labor-changes

7 posted on 12/26/2017 2:55:42 AM PST by MD Expat in PA
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To: LeoWindhorse

This is very stupid (and wrong) and it’s going to backfire big time on Trump.


8 posted on 12/26/2017 4:35:53 AM PST by Stevenc131
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To: MD Expat in PA

Thanks for that link! Very informative, and the devil is in the details. This is addressing a plethora of problems created by the minimum wage. If this reg raises a stink, I say good. This is a fight worth picking.


9 posted on 12/26/2017 4:43:50 AM PST by mewzilla (Was Obama surveilling John Roberts? Might explain a lot.)
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To: markomalley

FWIW I always tip in cash. I also try to avoid places that pool tips - which is becoming harder and harder to do.


10 posted on 12/26/2017 4:49:53 AM PST by mad_as_he$$
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To: riverrunner
From what I have seem being married to a waitress she would have get paid at least 3 times what the minimum wage is an hour to make of for her tips.

Because that's what her employer allows her to make. With this regulation change, the Trump Administration is rightly allowing her employer to keep the tips or use them to pay salaries for other workers if it's beyond what they want to pay her. If she doesn't like that, she can negotiate a better deal, work elsewhere or choose another career.

11 posted on 12/26/2017 5:59:52 AM PST by Alter Kaker (Gravitation is a theory, not a fact. It should be approached with an open mind...)
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To: Gigantor
You think that a job that gets tips isn’t a real job?

If you don't like capitalism, move to Cuba or vote for Democrats. Employers should be able to opt for whatever compensation arrangement they want with their employees - Trump is 100% right on this.

12 posted on 12/26/2017 6:01:58 AM PST by Alter Kaker (Gravitation is a theory, not a fact. It should be approached with an open mind...)
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