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Conservatism, Not Populism, Wins for Trump
Rush Limbaugh.com ^ | January 4, 2017 | Rush Limbaugh

Posted on 01/04/2018 12:32:07 PM PST by Kaslin

RUSH: There’s another thing here that I need to… Not get off my chest. It hasn’t been that big a deal. This whole idea that Trump and Bannon are some sort of massive populist movement, and therefore that is bad and it’s nationalistic?

That’s not what has been going on here. Populism is not been what’s going on. This is sour grapes losers using this term to describe it. Now, maybe Bannon, some of his people picked it up and ran with it because, “If that’s what people thought it was, then fine. We’ll give ’em what they think we’re doing.” But really, you’d have to look far and wide to find a more conservative administration than this one, and you know when Trump gets in the least trouble is when he does conservative things.

The more conservatism in Trump’s agenda, the more popular he becomes, the more support he ends up having, and the greater success he enjoys in implementing his agenda. You know, look at the first Obamacare repeal and replace. There was nothing conservative about that. All that was at first was an effort to “Get something done so that we could say that we did something, and we’re gonna call it repeal and replace Obamacare.” But it didn’t do either. It’s a good thing it went down in flames, because it didn’t repeal and replace Obamacare.

In fact, “replace” should never even be part of that conversation anyway. Repeal, period! Now, you move forward to the Trump tax cut. Now, that is something, and that’s legitimate and that’s real, and the benefits of that tax cut are already being experienced, and they have yet to really kick in. We’ve had company after company after company announce hiring, announce bonuses. We have American corporations with a lot of money parked overseas. They’ve announced they’re gonna repatriate it for a one-time, 10% tax.

This economy is on the verge of booming like we talked about right before my last couple of days here. This economy is poised to just take off, and it makes it even stranger to look at how the Democrats are setting up 2018. They think they’ve already won 2018. They think it’s over. They think they have succeeded in dredging up all this Trump hatred, Trump incompetence, Trump this, Trump that. And they believe everybody hates Trump like they hate Trump and they think it’s widespread.

They are ignoring the real things happening on the ground in terms of the economy that affect real people. We all remember CBS News when it went out and actually got visas to go into some Midwestern states where CBS normally doesn’t go. They wanted to find average, ordinary American families and apply the Trump tax cut to their income circumstances to prove that Trump’s tax cut was not gonna cut their taxes. In every instance, CBS found — this family, that family, this family over there — their taxes indeed are going to be cut.

It quickly was discovered that over 80% of American taxpayers are going to experience a tax cut. Millions of Americans are already feeling the benefits, even though it has not been fully implemented. Even though the withholding tables do not reflect more take-home pay (that’s not gonna happen until February), the effects of this tax cut on American business, on the American psyche is already being felt. That is something real, and that was practically top-to-bottom conservatism. There wasn’t any populism in this tax cut.

And in fact, if there were populism in this tax cut, there would not have been a reduction in corporate rates because populism requires that corporations/big businesses are the enemy. Populism is devoted to the idea that the little guy is being set upon by major, big institutions in government and business every day, and the populists come along and they’re gonna defend the little guy against the encroachment of Big Business, mean-spirited employers that don’t pay fair wages — all this kind of stuff — and encroaching government.

Well, there isn’t any populism in this tax cut because (chuckles) the biggest tax cut went to corporations, and that’s going to prove beneficial. I actually saw a story when I was doing show prep today. Some leftist… I forget the website. I’ll find it here in a minute. Doesn’t really matter. I mean, they’re one and the same. He’s now claiming that the U.S. economy from last year didn’t grow nearly as widely, strongly, bigly as other economies around the world, that all this talk about Trump’s great economy is a bunch of hoo-ha.

No, that’s the hoo-ha! There wasn’t any economic growth in the eight years of Barack Obama. There was very little economic growth in the last two to three years of George W. Bush. They were occupied by the media and the Democrats trying to lose the War on Terror and the war in Iraq. The economic change of fortune in this country in 11 months is striking. It is impossible to ignore, and it’s very difficult to rewrite, although they’re trying to. What worldwide economy did better? ChiComs? Vietnamese? Europe?

Give me a break. And this economy is poised to skyrocket even more. My contention is that every time that Trump does something that is policy oriented, that is rooted in conservatism, that’s when he shines. That’s when he’s at home. That’s when he’s confident. That’s when things work. It also happens to be when they hate him the most. Now, they hate him every day, all day, anyway. But they really hate him when this guy — either stumbles into it, swerves into it, or does it on purpose — implements what conservative think.

I mean, getting rid of the individual mandate of Obamacare in the tax cut? I can’t tell you… There is more damage done to the life span of Obamacare in that one move than anything they were contemplating in their big time repeal-and-replace Obamacare bill.

BREAK TRANSCRIPT

RUSH: Now, they’re sitting there thinking that they’re scoring home runs each and every day with all of their anti-Trump rhetoric in the media and Trump’s incompetent and Trump this. Then this book comes out, the excerpt from this book, the Michael Wolff book, and so they’re sitting on top of the world. They’re thinking that everything they have said about Trump and his uncouth personality and his unfitness for office and his barbaric attitude towards women, all of this is now being confirmed.

Bill Kristol is one of the happiest guys in Washington. He’s all over CNN thinking this book confirms everything he’s ever thought about Trump. And that is that Trump has lousy taste, that Trump is offensive, that Trump is not fit to be in polite company. And they’re all missing what’s actually happening in the country. They’re missing the revival, the near revival that the country’s on the verge of locking down. Anything could happen to derail it. But they’re all missing it because of their blind hatred and their commitment to getting rid of Trump.

Now, all of these distractions, which is what they are, they don’t seem to have stopped Trump, do they? We got tax reform. Trump is downsizing the federal bureaucracy in ways that people still haven’t been told. Trump has done so much within the federal bureaucracy of getting rid of regulations and getting rid of people to the extent that people on the progressive left know it.

It’s understandable why they would be outraged because Donald Trump is literally dismantling the decades old mansion that they have built that is the federal bureaucracy. He is literally tearing it apart. He is unraveling things that Obama implemented. He is unraveling years and decades-old regulations on such things that matter to them as climate change and immigration.

None of these things are getting any coverage in the media. The newspaper story that recounts these, the blog site story takes 18 pages to print out. So there is all kinds of substantive stuff happening, much of it not being reported and pretty much all of it, if you had to tag it ideologically, pretty much all of it is far more conservative than populist and certainly far more conservative than moderate or liberal.

And I find it fascinating that as more and more, quote, unquote, conservatism is finding its way back into, say, the American economy, the happier and more robust the American people are. And, remember, we’re just in the first stages of the uptick. Of course, anything that we can’t foresee could happen, but as things sit now, this year is set to take off economically.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial
KEYWORDS: rushlive; rushtranscript; trumpconservatism; trumppopulism
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1 posted on 01/04/2018 12:32:07 PM PST by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

I was not a fan of Trump before the election because I thought he was a closet liberal. Turns out he was a closet conservative. Who knew?!

He’s more conservative than Reagan and I like him even better.


2 posted on 01/04/2018 12:34:25 PM PST by robroys woman (So you're not confused, I'm male.)
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To: robroys woman

He has been influenced by liberal New York. That is why is daughter and son-in-law are often trying to influence him in the wrong direction in the Oval Office.


3 posted on 01/04/2018 12:43:27 PM PST by Antipolitico
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To: Kaslin
Rush is all wrong on this. If Trump had run as a conservative candidate, he probably would have won no more states in 2016 than Romney won in 2012.

Trump won because he ran as a candidate who was diametrically opposed to several key planks in the Republican Party platform -- notably immigration and trade policy. He was absolutely a "populist" on those issues, and his public statements about health care reform ("You'll get better health care and it will cost less!") sure weren't conservative at all.

4 posted on 01/04/2018 12:47:41 PM PST by Alberta's Child ("Tell them to stand!" -- President Trump, 9/23/2017)
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To: Antipolitico

I have programmed myself to think of these things in terms of American and AINO...works for me!
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5 posted on 01/04/2018 12:48:26 PM PST by gunnyg ("A Constitution changed from Freedom, can never be restored; Liberty, once lost, is lost forever...)
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To: Alberta's Child

Exactly.


6 posted on 01/04/2018 12:48:36 PM PST by Mr. Lucky
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To: Kaslin

“Conservatism versus Populism” is a false dichotomy. Rush’s “conservatism” is a non-starter, a dead-end street, with no vision for future. Forget “conservatism” except as a last-resort term for convenience.

America will win, but not with “conservatism”. A great deal of “conservatism” is about preserving the “establishment” - which is exactly the opposite of what needs to happen which is to blow up the status quo and the establishment.

If the figureheads of “conservatism” - George Will, Charles Krauthammer and Co. - had their way Trump would not have been nominated, and much to their apparent chagrin, Hillary would have been nominated. America would have lost BIG TIME.

No America’s victory and future is in the FIGHT for FREEDOM and FAITH. Some of that is in “conservatism”, some not, but ALL is necessary. Unlike the goals of “conservatism” (nobody knows what “conservatism”’s goals are which is one reason “conservatism” is a problem), our goals, the goals of true patriotic Americans, the goals of the Right who love this country, must be the RESTORATION OF OUR FREE CONSTITUTIONAL REPUBLIC regardless of whatever “conservatism” is.


7 posted on 01/04/2018 12:51:02 PM PST by Jim W N
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To: Kaslin

Whatever helps you sleep at night Rush.


8 posted on 01/04/2018 1:08:58 PM PST by mrmeyer (You can't conquer a free man; the most you can do is kill him. Robert Heinlein)
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To: Jim 0216

Agree 100%.


9 posted on 01/04/2018 1:10:43 PM PST by mrmeyer (You can't conquer a free man; the most you can do is kill him. Robert Heinlein)
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To: Kaslin

I think hanging your hat on the GOP’s 2016 vision of “conservatism” won’t win national elections. I think Trump did just the right approach.

Rush was the guy that was pumping Marco Rubio as a “rock ribbed conservative,” don’t forget. I have no idea what the hell he was talking about.


10 posted on 01/04/2018 1:11:08 PM PST by Ted Grant
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11 posted on 01/04/2018 1:22:30 PM PST by Kaslin (Quid est Veritas?: What Is Truth?)
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To: Alberta's Child

Agreed. He’s not a populist if you believe the majority of the people in this country are die-hard liberals...the ones who will actually practice what they preach. Trump knows most “liberals” are just fools with other people’s money, but when it comes to their wallet they’re ultra-conservative!


12 posted on 01/04/2018 1:24:11 PM PST by gr8eman (Facts and evidence are bourgeois constructs weaponized by patriarchal penis-people)
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13 posted on 01/04/2018 1:24:46 PM PST by Kaslin (Quid est Veritas?: WWehat Is Truth?)
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To: Kaslin

Who in the hell says populism is not part and parcel of true classical conservatism? Maybe Rush should go to college. Disappoing to hear him talk like that.


14 posted on 01/04/2018 2:32:07 PM PST by amihow
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To: Kaslin

Trumps’s nomination and election were a repudiation of the GOPe and its policies and an embrace of populist policies that actually help the lives of people down on the ground.


15 posted on 01/04/2018 3:11:30 PM PST by Architect of Avalon
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To: Alberta's Child

well said


16 posted on 01/04/2018 4:28:52 PM PST by Pelham (all warfare is based on deception)
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To: Jim 0216; Ohioan; wardaddy

“If the figureheads of “conservatism” - George Will, Charles Krauthammer and Co. - had their way”

It’s a stretch to call either of those two frauds conservatives.

Ronald Reagan in 1980 was the first candidate from the conservative wing since Barry Goldwater got the nomination back in 1964. So did bow-tied poindexter George Will support Reagan in the primary? Of course not. He backed establishment guy Howard Baker, and when Baker dropped out Will moved on to... George HW Bush, the establishment’s other choice.

Charles Krauthammer not only didn’t support Reagan, he wrote speeches for Walter Mondale in the attempt to deny Reagan a 2nd term. That weasel manages to masquerade as a conservative thanks mainly to the efforts of his fellow weasels in what is laughably called “mainstream conservative journalism”- the Hugh Hewitts, Michael Medveds, Jonah Goldbergs etc.


17 posted on 01/04/2018 4:54:29 PM PST by Pelham (all warfare is based on deception)
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To: Ted Grant

+1


18 posted on 01/04/2018 4:58:18 PM PST by Pelham (all warfare is based on deception)
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To: Pelham

That’s kinda mu point. “Conservatism” is really “establishment” and not really pro-America freedom and limited constitutional government.

Better to lose the “conservative” moniker except for the exception of convenience once in a while. Nobody knows what a conservative is and nobody knows what “conservatism”’s goals are. I don’t believe they have any. Ten different people will give you ten different answers.


19 posted on 01/04/2018 5:03:14 PM PST by Jim W N
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To: Jim 0216

“Nobody knows what a conservative is and nobody knows what “conservatism”’s goals are. I don’t believe they have any. Ten different people will give you ten different answers.”

Yep. And you are in good company there.

Russell Kirk was pretty much the first modern, post-WWII conservative intellectual- he began it all with his book ‘The Conservative Mind’ in 1953- a book which many, including Rush, refer to but I have my doubts that any of them ever read it.

It’s been a long time since I read any Kirk but one thing I do remember him saying goes along the lines of ‘conservatism is the absence of ideology’. So whenever you see someone waving around their favorite list of conservative commandments you can at least know that they aren’t in the Russell Kirk camp.

I searched a bit and found a pertinent Russell Kirk essay taken from one of his books:

http://www.kirkcenter.org/detail/ten-conservative-principles/


20 posted on 01/04/2018 8:06:42 PM PST by Pelham (all warfare is based on deception)
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