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To: silverleaf
You are conflating the hinky FISA appliation with charges that the Trump campaign colluded with the Russians.

The charge that the Trump campaign colluded with the Russians is fiction made up out of whole cloth.

The FISA application and warrant are the devices used by the FBI in an attempt to legitimize surveillance on the Trump campaign.

Note too, timing. The FISA application is late October 2016, less than a month before the election. The Russion collusion investigation supposedly predates that by a few months, anyway.

All this stuff is wrapped together - the best way to make sense of it is to recognize that the FBI is liars of the first order. They fabricate evidence, or take evidence they know to be fabricated, and use that to get a court order. All of this "offical manuervering" and "blessing of the court" is used to argue that they are not liars of the first order.

The FBI makes the mafia look like Boy Scouts. Not making this up, the FBI ran a "Murder, Inc." operation out of Boston. Read some Howie Carr material on that. Literally organized criminals, operating under the blessing of DOJ and courts. "Crooked" is a gross understatement.

44 posted on 02/02/2018 6:18:57 PM PST by Cboldt
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To: Cboldt

Yep. I think that part of the FBI is known as Division 5 isn’t it? Or maybe JTTF these days.


45 posted on 02/02/2018 6:22:12 PM PST by greeneyes
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To: Cboldt

Just think if this ultimately leads to identifying Fast and Furious or similar weapons used at Mandalay Bay or other terrorist events in the US.

And the FBI still keeps it all covert.,,,,

What else has been kept so covert?


49 posted on 02/02/2018 6:29:41 PM PST by Cvengr ( Adversity in life & death is inevitable; Stress is optional through faith in Christ.)
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