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Strzok & Page: Tim Cook was a 'hypocrite' in the San Bernardino iPhone encryption fight
Business Insider ^ | February 8, 2018 | by Kif Leswing

Posted on 02/09/2018 7:53:52 AM PST by Swordmaker

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To: House Atreides

The Founding Fathers taught me to distrust government in all of its forms, especially central government.

Every new power the Republicans demanded, from the Patriot Act to TSA, I would always ask, how would Hilary Clinton abuse this power?

We can survive the damage due to a few evil terrorists, even taking down the NY world trade towers. Life goes on and you pass the America Dream on to your childrem. We CANNOT survive the tyranny of oppression caused by a federal government with absolute power over us.

The founders taught us not just to suspect government, but to be downright cynical.. far too manymodern Americans love or trust government, and it is killing us by rapidly eroding our original Constitutional rights.

That is why we are doomed.


21 posted on 02/09/2018 10:21:48 AM PST by Freedom_Is_Not_Free (What profits a man if he gains the world yet loses his soul?)
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To: Swordmaker
If guns are outlawed, only outlaws will have guns.

If uncrackable encrypted phones are outlawed, only outlaws will have uncrackable encrypted phones.

The government has no authority to limit the ability of the people to ensure their own privacy. Many have already used the false argument that the Second Amendment is not a suicide pact as a way to suggest that infringements that aid the government are allowed. It's also a false argument to suggest that the Fourth Amendment should allow the government to decide the limits of our privacy.

22 posted on 02/09/2018 10:23:16 AM PST by William Tell
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To: Freedom_Is_Not_Free
"That is why we are doomed."

I agree with your posting. It is difficult to be optimistic these days.

How ironic it is that a "smart phone" is one which limits the government's ability to restrict your right to privacy, while a "smart gun" is one which would enable the government to infringe your right to keep and bear arms.

23 posted on 02/09/2018 10:28:15 AM PST by William Tell
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To: Swordmaker

One of the few times Cook may have had a case.


24 posted on 02/09/2018 10:43:33 AM PST by TBP (Progressives lack compassion and tolerance. Their self-aggrandizement is all that matters.)
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To: RandallFlagg
From what I remember (unless things have changed) the terrorist phone was unlocked, and an FBI agent accidentally locked it. Then, The feds wanted Apple to not only unlock it again, they wanted the ability to unlock every iPhone.

No, it was locked but Apple could have unlocked it with the Terrorist’s Apple ID, but the San Bernardino County IT Department CHANGED the AppleID at the FBI’s suggestion before the called in Apple which LOCKED the data on the phone by erasing the encryption key. After that the only thing even the third party could get access to was generic data when they finally got access, such as address book and phone logs. But this was the guy’s work iPhone and all they found is what they already knew: he only used it for work related activities. . . Plus a couple of incoming calls from his terrorist wife. Nothing else.

25 posted on 02/09/2018 12:34:06 PM PST by Swordmaker (My pistol self-identifies as an iPad, so you must accept it in gun-free zones, you racist, bigot!)
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That’s right. I remember now. Thank you.


26 posted on 02/09/2018 1:01:41 PM PST by RandallFlagg (Vote for your guns!)
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To: House Atreides
Up until several years ago I felt that the FBI should be able to access encrypted/locked data on smartphones and computers. This belief was founded on my faith that the FBI was incorruptible and would NEVER abuse that privilege.

You're thinking way too small. Way too small. The last four administrations, including the current one, as well as Congress, have shown that you can't trust them - the NSA/etc. are still pulling down as much of your online and mobile phone activity as they can, without you knowing it, and without needing a reason or a warrant to do so.

But it's not just our government - way too many bad actors out there, whether they are collecting a private or government paycheck, are trying to work out ways to get to your data. Way too many companies are trying to screw with your online security so that they can install all kinds of malevolent software, whether it's to game advertising systems or to aid in identity theft.
27 posted on 02/09/2018 3:17:23 PM PST by af_vet_rr
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To: Sacajaweau
A terrorist has no right to privacy....especially since he/she just mowed down a bunch of people....like you or me......

Weakening encryption and phone security in general, simply to help the government fight terrorism also helps the government abuse its power and it helps the bad guys (Russians, Chinese, NK, the identify theft people, etc.).
28 posted on 02/09/2018 3:21:05 PM PST by af_vet_rr
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That’s not what I suggested at all. We’re talking about a single phone of a dead terrorists...not an encryption key for the system.


29 posted on 02/09/2018 4:33:10 PM PST by Sacajaweau
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It that is NOT what the Obama Administration demanded. The Obama Admitted demanded a tool that could open ANY iPhone past, present and future. And everyone knows that NO Govt agency can or will secure that software such that it is not distributed to the public.

Further Sarbanes-Oxley Act (Section 802) puts a 20 year and up to a $20k fine for EACH INCIDENT of lying to the public. Apple is on record of saying that they are happy with the profits they make on the hardware. They do not, nor will not ever sell their customers privacy. So multiply every Apple customer by $20k and that number would bankrupt the company.

So Apple had no choice but to stick to their guns and tell the FBI to go pound sand. And I am glad they did.


30 posted on 02/09/2018 7:48:09 PM PST by Hodar (A man can fail many times, but he isn't a failure until he begins to blame somebody else.- Burroughs)
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