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Market experts are starting to see parallels to the financial crisis
Yahoo ^ | February 9 2018 | Dion Rabouin

Posted on 02/09/2018 8:26:01 AM PST by WilliamIII

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To: butlerweave
or Yellen is gone and so is the pumping of Billions of Dollars into the Market

Bingo!

41 posted on 02/09/2018 9:02:10 AM PST by Kenny
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To: WilliamIII

This is not the same thing at all. Not even close. The only part of this that is similar is that wall street people have stupidity built into some of their strategies. But there is almost no leverage to speak of. Small hedge funds with 2 or 3 times leverage for part of their portfolio is a far cry from 2007. And almost all the economies around the world are doing very well.

The market will be fine again as soon as it devours the bones of those hedge funds that may take a few days then its off to the races.


42 posted on 02/09/2018 9:04:19 AM PST by poinq
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To: WilliamIII

Remove tax advantages of capital growth over dividend payment. Boom.


43 posted on 02/09/2018 9:05:42 AM PST by Born to Conserve
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To: WilliamIII

Bring out the fear monger machines!!!! Dupe people into destroying their investment portfolios!! Yep, the media loves to assist the rogue players of wall street...

In 100/100 market corrections in the past, a well diversified and prudent portfolio would have recovered after every single major market correction.

100%, do you like those odds?

Or, how about doing something that virtually never works and causes more harm than good. Selling in the midst of a downturn in hopes of picking an even lower number, at just the right time...


44 posted on 02/09/2018 9:06:48 AM PST by Professional
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To: fruser1

“...The sector that suffers the worst with the current drop is the energy sector.
Trump’s attempt to reignite offshore drilling has been met w/just about every coastal governor taking action to stop it.
So maybe Trump’s election ignited hope, but the reality of the swamp is dashing it to pieces....”
As an investor in the energy sector, I totally agree. I do believe it will turn back around though. IMHO, Trump will prevail in some of those offshore actions, but yeah, the swamp is deep and wide, and the commie swamp creatures are doing everything can to destroy him....I pray for him daily.


45 posted on 02/09/2018 9:12:08 AM PST by lgjhn23 (It's easy to be liberal when you're dumber than a box of rocks.)
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To: LoveUSA

Krugman and other experts have predicted 27 of the last 3 market crashes.


46 posted on 02/09/2018 9:13:04 AM PST by generally ( Don't be stupid. We have politicians for that.)
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To: WilliamIII
The most popular instrument to bet against volatility, which has been historically low over the past few years, is the VelocityShares Daily Inverse VIX Short-Term exchange-traded note (XIV). It’s generally referred to as the XIV (VIX backwards) because it shorts, or bets against, the Chicago Board Options Exchange’s (CBOE) measure of volatility, the VIX.

You can trade volume bets (VIX) or lack of volume bets (XIV). All triple-leveraged. It's like trading which way the wind is blowing. Or perhaps, wind velocity.

47 posted on 02/09/2018 9:14:33 AM PST by Flick Lives
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To: WilliamIII

Bunch of folks going bananas over a correction that had to happen - while the economy starts firing up...


48 posted on 02/09/2018 9:16:31 AM PST by trebb (I stopped picking on the mentally ill hypocrites who pose as conservatives...;-})
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To: WilliamIII

I retire in 79 days.. house goes up for sale and the retirement home broke ground last month.

Planned on retiring in 2008 ....Perfect storm..

Told the wife I don’t give shxt either way this time cause I’m done.


49 posted on 02/09/2018 9:24:52 AM PST by maddog55
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To: WilliamIII

Still up 7000+ from the Obama years. Dem BS is what is causing the drop.


50 posted on 02/09/2018 9:32:37 AM PST by bk1000 (I stand with Trump)
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To: WilliamIII

The VIX hedges do not seem to be enough in value - against the total market - to be a determining factor in a substantial volume of the sell trades the past week.

For now, I am reminded, as early into 2018 we are, and the market is still 3K+ points above December 2016. And, even then, in December 2016, average P/E ratios were in historical near bubble territory. So some sell off would have been normal in my view.

Timing - why now - and extent - where is the bottom, remain questions no one has a crystal ball with which to answer.


51 posted on 02/09/2018 9:32:39 AM PST by Wuli
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To: Logical me

The market is nothing more than a crap shoot game. If it goes down you lose money and can never recover if it goes back up.

†+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Say what? Nonsense!! Whoever told you this is insane and uneducated to boot.


52 posted on 02/09/2018 9:33:33 AM PST by billyboy15
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To: going hot

POLL: What is happening to the stock market?

It is being deliberately sabotaged
It is experiencing a long overdue correction
The Trump economy is crashing
I’m not sure

http://www.headlineoftheday.com/


53 posted on 02/09/2018 9:35:45 AM PST by Jeff Chandler (President Trump divides Americans . . . from anti-Americans.)
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To: WilliamIII

I can’t help but wonder how many Soros-held interests are pushing the sell-sell-sell frenzy right now.


54 posted on 02/09/2018 9:38:30 AM PST by ScottinVA ( Liberals, go find another country.)
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To: Az Joe

“I voted for both Bushes ...twice each! I think they’re traitors now!”

I think they are NWO globalists. I was with W until he referred to Islam as a relegion of peace. Didn’t trust him after that. Gore would have been worse. Much worse. And Kerry? Are you kidding me?


55 posted on 02/09/2018 9:39:07 AM PST by bk1000 (I stand with Trump)
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To: Hostage

56 posted on 02/09/2018 9:49:20 AM PST by bgill (CDC site, "We don't know how people are infected with Ebola.")
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To: lgjhn23

Agreed.

Not nearly enough criticism of the Yellen Fed. She’s as political as anyone has ever been in that position, and with a chip on her shoulder.

Her parting shot to Trump was to ‘just mention’ to the press that stock are too expensive (or overvalued). Voila!


57 posted on 02/09/2018 9:56:42 AM PST by Paulie (America without Christ is like a Chemistry book without the periodic table.)
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To: WilliamIII

It’s missing one huge “parallel:” the fact there’s no rampant run on mortgage defaults.


58 posted on 02/09/2018 9:57:23 AM PST by ScottinVA ( Liberals, go find another country.)
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To: WilliamIII

I think about 3% of these experts beat the averages, their opinions are really not that valuable.


59 posted on 02/09/2018 9:58:23 AM PST by 1Old Pro
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To: WilliamIII
Great - someone figures out why it went down.

Now when is it going to STOP going down?

60 posted on 02/09/2018 10:06:19 AM PST by grobdriver (BUILD KATE'S WALL!)
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