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Popcorn: Democrats and Pro-Amnesty Advocates Turn on Each Other
Townhall.com ^ | February 20, 2018 | Arthur Schaper

Posted on 02/20/2018 9:05:34 AM PST by Kaslin

To see how protracted and insane the immigration debate has become among amnesty proponents, look no further than the drama which engulfed LULAC over the last two weeks. LULAC, the League of United Latin American Citizens, is one of the oldest Hispanic advocacy groups in the country. The group’s president, Roger Rocha, issued an open letter in support of President Trump’s Four Pillar immigration proposal, which would provide a pathway to citizenship for 1.8 million DACA and DACA-eligible illegal aliens in the country.

Rocha’s letter reluctantly acquiesced to the President’s demands for stricter enforcement of our borders, including the wall, along with sharp cuts to legal immigration. The left-wing base which makes up LULAC membership erupted over the President’s letter. Rocha apologized for the outrage and rescinded the letter. But the damage is done, and not just to Rocha. The LULAC Board of Directors held an emergency meeting last weekend and they issued a vote of no confidence against Rocha. He has doubled-down on his apologies, but has signaled that he will not resign; however, he is not running for re-election, either.

What’s going on here? Why does this drama within a private national organization deserve more attention? It goes to show how radically, and radically insane the Democratic Party and their supporting pro-amnesty interest groups have become. One has to give Rocha some credit. He probably recognized that the best deal one could hope for granting permanent legal status to young illegals rested in the President’s clearly outlined proposal. The voters in this country have militantly opposed amnesty for decades, and they have every right to expect enforcement of our immigration laws. The vast majority of Americans who are not political, have become very political over illegal immigration. It’s a fact of life that the pressure on public services, the economy, and public safety have grown too great to ignore.

But on the left, and among the most ardent liberals within the Democratic Party, there is no compromise. They must have their amnesty, and no strings attached: a full ride with no wall or border enforcement. I was surprised that my U.S. Senator Kamala Harris, one of the most left-wing partisans in the US Senate, voted against the Schumer-Rounds-Collins bill. After all, that legislation would have curtained ICE and DHS enforcement activities while allowing illegals who had entered the country up to June 29, 2018 to seek legal status in the country.

That was the worst bill, and yet 8 Republicans crossed over to vote for it. Despite the bipartisan support, Harris and the two U.S. Senators from New Mexico, along with the more real (and realistic) Republican caucus, killed that legislation. But why those three U.S. Senators? They don’t support that “stupid” wall. I wanted to call their offices and ask: “Do you have a door? Do you lock it at night? How about a wall? Do you have walls around your home?”

Sure, these left-wing Senators can play up their opposition to their base. However, they should also admit that they have scuttled any opportunity for an amnesty because of their adamant refusal to respect the President and the American People’s priorities on enforcement and security. Do these liberals not get it? They are not getting anything if they won’t compromise on the main enforcement elements with the President’s agenda.

This divide over amnesty isn’t just among politicians and their base, but has emerged among the illegal aliens themselves! The Los AngelesTimes just ran an article articulating the frustration and resentment among non-DACA illegals. They are no longer young adults, and some of these illegals are hitting 40 years old. They have lived and worked in the shadows for more than three decades.

They didn’t qualify for DACA, and now they are mad because their “needs” are not getting attention from lawmakers fighting to pass any kind of immigration reform. Their arrogance and raging sense of entitlement is unfathomable. Who do they think they are? How is it possible that any cohort of illegals living in this country would still be illegal after all these years? President Reagan signed off on a comprehensive amnesty 30 years ago. What have they been doing all this time?

Now another dilemma emerges: Should amnesty proponents settle for a compromise, as the embattled President of LULAC tried to do? Or should activists continue to scream, shout, block traffic, and harass lawmakers until they get a clean DREAM Act? Should they agitate for a comprehensive 11+ million amnesty proposal, and in the meantime wait for the results of the November 2018 election, too?

This divide among the different pro-amnesty factions, the Democratic Party, and the illegal aliens is fascinating, and ultimately working in the President and the American people’s favor. All along, I wagered that President Trump was not throwing away his campaign promises on immigration enforcement. After all, Republicans need their base now more than ever, and Republicans right now are not as motivated as the Democrats, still a potent, enraged force. The President enticed the center-left coalition with a pretty generous deal, but they have turned it down, and now are turning on their more reasonable leaders.

If anyone was paying attention, President Trump’s latest weekend address focused on immigration, but he discussed three important pillars to his proposal—not four. Guess which pillar is missing! DACA is apparently off the table, and Trump is doubling down on limiting legal immigration, including chain migration and the diversity VISA program. Democrats have not only squandered their diminished political capital, but they have worn out the patience of their left-wing base.

I have to say I am breathing a sigh of relief over all public, violent meltdowns among amnesty supporters. Finally, conservatives are no longer playing defense on this contentious issue, but now we can fight to ensure that our borders will be secure, that our culture and country will persevere, and perhaps we can put this lingering wedge issue to rest for good.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial
KEYWORDS: amnesty; daca; dreamact; immigration

1 posted on 02/20/2018 9:05:34 AM PST by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

“...thin the Democratic Party, there is no compromise. They must have their amnesty, and no strings attached: a full ride with no wall or border enforcement. “

Because they STILL don’t have a large enough new voting block to win elections. MORE MORE MORE. The wall is the worst thing that could ever happen to them.


2 posted on 02/20/2018 9:12:40 AM PST by z3n
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To: Kaslin

40 minus (liberal here) 8 yrs. of Zero’s reign = 32 yrs. old.

So much for the ‘children’. Plus, say @ 8yrs. age, young enough to return home (best they are dual-language).


3 posted on 02/20/2018 9:44:15 AM PST by i_robot73 ("A man chooses. A slave obeys." - Andrew Ryan)
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To: Kaslin
There may come a day when Mexico won't accept their own citizens back in their country.

Imagine a time when we finally get the wall up, end the flood of illegal immigrants, and turn our attention to those already here.

Some will be allowed to stay and become US citizens, how many and by what criteria I don't know. Marketable skills, education, clean behavior, I suppose. After we've weeded out the "undesirables", will Mexico willingly accept them back?

I'm thinking of Palestinians still living in tents in the Jordanian desert, 40 years now? 50, or more? Permanent refugees, unwelcome in any country...

4 posted on 02/20/2018 9:49:51 AM PST by ZOOKER (Until further notice the /s is implied...)
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To: Kaslin

Originally willing to cut some slack for daca, I no longer feel so generous. The sense of entitlement, the claims the US “owes” amnesty to these illegal aliens, the open protests in legislative offices, the outright lack of appreciation for not being immediately deported.

Throw them all out.


5 posted on 02/20/2018 10:07:50 AM PST by chief lee runamok
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To: chief lee runamok

Arrogant beggars.


6 posted on 02/20/2018 11:16:29 AM PST by jmacusa ("Made it Ma, top of the world!'')
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To: ZOOKER

“There may come a day when Mexico won’t accept their own citizens back in their country.”

Then bring back the Trebuchet! If the Mexicans care at all, they can put in some strategic trampolines on their side of the border. Incoming!


7 posted on 02/20/2018 11:57:03 AM PST by vette6387
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To: vette6387

a trebuchet would be slow.

better would be to have the military enter Mexico and establish a release zone. All the illegals rounded would be bussed into the zone and released.

When Mexico complains, just let ‘em bitch.


8 posted on 02/20/2018 12:05:26 PM PST by bert (K.E.; N.P.; GOPc;WASP .... The Fourth Estate is the Fifth Column)
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To: bert
“a trebuchet would be slow.”

How about a high-speed traveling walkway that extends through a monitored gate in the wall? Have a horn and a flashing red light, just like the luggage carousel at airport baggage claim!

9 posted on 02/20/2018 12:17:06 PM PST by vette6387
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To: Kaslin
>> President Reagan signed off on a comprehensive amnesty 30 years ago. What have they been doing all this time? <<

30 years is roughly a generation. Funny how the more things change the more they stay the same.
10 posted on 02/20/2018 12:22:48 PM PST by Kid Shelleen ((Beat your plowshares into swords. Let the weak say I am strong))
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The Dreamers need to be investigated:

<><> How many identities are they using?

<><>How many stolen Social Security numbers?

<><> How many govt checks are they cashing?

Americans footing the bills demand answers.

<><> Did the Dreamers ever engage in voter fraud (smirk)?

<><> Did they coach others to engage in voter fraud?

<><> Are they registered to vote under several identities?

<><> did they ever vote under several identities?

<><> Did they coach illegals to vote using multiple identities?

<><> Does they have rap sheets here? Elsewhere?

<><> Do they receive welfare, food stamps, SSI, free medical care, Section 8 housing, UI, Workmen's comp under several identities?

<><> Did they ever apply for, and receive, monthly SS checks, claiming "asylum?"

<><> Did they falsify bank apps to fraudulently apply for sub-prime mortgages?

<><> Did they falsify EITC forms to get multiple refunds?

<><> Does they have legal driver's licenses?

<><> Valid passports?

<><> How many times did they wire-transfer remittances to Mexico? The Third World?

<><> Do they belong to radical America-hating organizations planning armed conflict to takeover the American SW?

<><> Did they get--free school lunches--welfare--- food stamps---free healthcare---SSI/ADD checks. secret Mexican bank accounts?

<><> Does they have offshore accounts under multiple identities?

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Did the undocumented cash multiple govt checks under several identities in these categories:

UI, SSI, Workmen's Comp,

TANF (temporary assistance to needy families),

WICS (food assistance),

subsidized Section 8 shelter,

ObamaPhone subsidies,

Utility Assistance subsidies,

School breakfasts/lunches/snacks subsidies,

$5000 a year EITC checks per identity.

11 posted on 02/21/2018 3:31:54 AM PST by Liz ( Our side has 8 Trillion bullets; the other side doesn't know which bathroom to use.)
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To: Kaslin
NJ BERGEN RECORD CIRCA 2004---Pelcastre brothers, Angel and Jorge, Dallas, Texas, were a walking threat to US national security, expert document forgers who, for a few thousand dollars, could give anyone a new identity (latinos establish multiple identities in order to ride the US gravy train).

The Texas brothers were a "one-stop shop" for a myriad of fake US documents, including birth certificates, Social Security cards, driver's licenses---- for any state in the US------ passports and resident alien cards, said NJ state police.

The Texas brothers turned a NJ hotel room into a business office and were readying a massive cache of fake Social Security cards for delivery to a local NJ identity broker. Officers happened upon two cars bearing Texas plates in a NJ hotel parking lot.

The Texas brothers were followed to a NJ office supply store nearby where they purchased computer supplies. Officers then followed the Texans to a NJ storage facility in Secaucus, NJ, where the Texans loaded several boxes into a car. One of them stood lookout.

After a search (to which the bros consented), police recovered laminating sheets with built-in security features, pages of blank documents waiting for fake names and information, finished documents, computers and software to create the fake IDs.

All tolled, the haul was worth about $500,000 on the street when sold to "impoverished illegals." Police also recovered $6,000 in cash, which was the first payment from a NJ fake document broker for a shipment of 500 phony Social Security cards. ####

12 posted on 02/21/2018 3:33:15 AM PST by Liz ( Our side has 8 Trillion bullets; the other side doesn't know which bathroom to use.)
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According to the govt of Mexico, illegals on US soil are, in fact, Mexican citizens, and that Mexico/s official govt policy is to encourage its poor people to migrate here illegally in order to access our generous welfare system.

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SWORN AFFIDAVIT BY THE GOVERNMENT OF MEXICO TO A TEXAS COURT
MEXICO SWORE THAT MEXICANS ON US SOIL ARE MEXICAN CITIZENS.

A sworn affidavit by Mexico/s Consul General to a Texas court asserts that Mexico/s official govt policy is to encourage its poor people to migrate here illegally in order to access our generous welfare system...... declaring that Mexico is responsible to protect its nationals wherever they may be residing.

The Mexican consul's sworn testimony asserts that: "My responsibilities in this position include protecting the rights and promoting the interests of my fellow Mexican nationals, and, that the main responsibility of consulates is to provide services, assistance, and protection to Mexican nationals abroad."

A footnote states that Mexican nationality is granted to children born abroad of a Mexican born parent. IOW, anchor babies born in the US retain parents Mexican nationality.

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Ergo, illegals have two governments looking after their interests.....our govt subsidizing them, and the Mexican govt making sure they collect.

Its time the US govt look after the interests of American citizens.

13 posted on 02/21/2018 3:38:08 AM PST by Liz ( Our side has 8 Trillion bullets; the other side doesn't know which bathroom to use.)
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14 posted on 02/21/2018 7:40:47 AM PST by Liz ( Our side has 8 Trillion bullets; the other side doesn't know which bathroom to use.)
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