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Coral Springs police "blew past" Broward Sheriff's to get to shooter.
Jim Defede - Twitter ^ | Feb 24, 2018 | Jim Defede

Posted on 02/24/2018 8:35:57 AM PST by Tea Party Terrorist

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To: CGASMIA68

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/florida-school-shooting-nikolas-cruz-was-on-rifle-team-that-got-nra-grant/

Part of the ‘Get the NRA’ angle of the story.

Cruz was on the Varsity team at the school that was sponsored by the NRA.

Air rifles. But lots of range time.


121 posted on 02/24/2018 10:27:52 AM PST by Snickering Hound
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To: Liz

“But one senior law enforcement source said that at the time B/SO was waiting outside, they had no idea if the shooter was still inside.”

They followed protocol.,,mill around aimlessly at a safe distance.


122 posted on 02/24/2018 10:28:06 AM PST by Bonemaker (invictus maneo)
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To: Freedom4US

In the Parkland case, their security system had a dismal record concerning student safety and security that should be brought to public discussion particularly beginning with this school having a so called “gun free zone”.

It did have an officer who may be armed assigned to patrol the multi acre site in a golf cart, but bans guns from the rest of its internal security

Criticism arose when the officer assigned to this duty who was nearing retirement He was reported to arrive late and after Cruz had entered the building but stationed himself outside the large structure and had called for support. Two officers responded Which and did the same. He then left before Cruz did.

Those laissez faire attitudes strongly suggest examining records of reporting how the bureaucracy at this school handled student vs student, and student vs teacher (Cruz was accused of this) altercations, vandalism, thefts, and drug use. Which are bound to occur were being dealt with.To which a dramatic reduction in disciplinary incidents were reported after a visit by Obama occurred.

Because of these Ding Bat liberal policies it brings up another question. Just how safe and secure are those kids ? There’s a lot of krap that happens; Assaults, fights, thefts, books and items stolen, teachers accosted, kids intimidated....

Examine records reporting how student vs student, and student vs teacher altercations, vandalism, and thefts, which are bound to occur were being dealt with.

Because in an educational unit this size it’s pretty clear their security system failed . In a secure system Cruz would have never gotten inside.

Now that school board has decided to tear down the school which was probably raised by a funding referendums and the grounds house a memorial.


123 posted on 02/24/2018 10:28:53 AM PST by mosesdapoet (Mosesdapoet aka L.J.Keslin another gem posted in the wilderness)
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To: NohSpinZone

The Sheriff was very close to Hillary. It is rumored that she was going to make him the next FBI directer, after moving Comey to the USSC.


124 posted on 02/24/2018 10:29:33 AM PST by Revel
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To: MHGinTN

It’s an in fortunate event that was fueled by PC and now they are pouring on more PC fuel


125 posted on 02/24/2018 10:29:59 AM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: Bonemaker
They followed protocol.,,mill around aimlessly at a safe distance.

Need to look at what the ROE was that the paper shufflers at Broward County set up.

If they violate ROE but get Cruz, they could still be in trouble and they knew it.

126 posted on 02/24/2018 10:35:55 AM PST by Snickering Hound
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To: mylife

‘Someone’ knew what was inevitable with this sick kid. ‘Someone’ wanted yet another slaughter to exploit for an agenda. To give the FBI a pass as incompetent is a mistake. The unfolding spectacle tells us that ‘someone’ was making preparations for this event, in a perfect county for exploitation.


127 posted on 02/24/2018 10:35:58 AM PST by MHGinTN (A dispensational perspective is a powerful tool for discernment)
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To: mad_as_he$$

“Lot’s of former military would be happy to train cops on rapid entry (with minimum intel) that significantly reduces the risk to the breachers.”

Exactly. It should be an integral part of training for all LE. Score another gross dereliction of duty for this hack sheriff.


128 posted on 02/24/2018 10:35:59 AM PST by Bonemaker (invictus maneo)
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To: DesertRhino

Very well put.

Four TRAINED cops, each with vests and each armed with a long gun should be a pretty safe operation.

So what bugs me is: Every sheriff’s deputy car I have seen has a long gun of some sort either in the gun rack in the front seat or in the trunk.

Further it will either be a .12 Ga riot gun or an AR 15 type.

So why did all four deputies leave long guns in the patrol cars and have only their side arms?

If in fact long guns were in their cars, it would indicate that they had no intention of going in.

Even so, four men with vests and modern high capacity pistols, properly trained, would be very formidable.

Whether not trained, not equipped or not real men, that department needs a new sheriff and a complete reorganization from top to bottom.


129 posted on 02/24/2018 10:36:06 AM PST by old curmudgeon (There is no situation so terrible, so disgraceful, that the federal government can not make worse)
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To: Revel

The Sheriff was very close to Hillary. It is rumored that she was going to make him the next FBI directer, after moving Comey to the USSC.


That would explain a lot.


130 posted on 02/24/2018 10:37:16 AM PST by txhurl (The Final Thunderdome: Two Americas enter, One America leaves.)
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To: etcb

not allowed to use logic!


131 posted on 02/24/2018 10:41:18 AM PST by smileyface (Things looking up in RED PA! I love President Trump!)
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To: DesertRhino

Precisely!!


132 posted on 02/24/2018 10:44:28 AM PST by etcb
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To: dragnet2

“Anyone defending Coward County is a tool.”

Rush Limbaugh lives in next county north. Too bad these scum don’t listen to him...they might learn something.


133 posted on 02/24/2018 10:44:32 AM PST by Bonemaker (invictus maneo)
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To: mosesdapoet

There is no possible way ONE SRO could protect 3000 kids.

The entire scenario was ridiculous

Cruz was informed of all the systems that he took advantage of or overrode.

Let the Faculty carry and let potential perps guess, will 70 year old Miss Paulin drop my ass?


134 posted on 02/24/2018 10:45:45 AM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: Tea Party Terrorist

“The Coral Springs officers were told by BSO officers on the scene to wait, but the Coral Springs officers blew past them and immediately entered the building.”

The BSO officers blew past the Coral Springs officers going the opposite direction.


135 posted on 02/24/2018 10:46:46 AM PST by Bonemaker (invictus maneo)
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To: Tea Party Terrorist

Bttt.

5.56mm


136 posted on 02/24/2018 10:46:58 AM PST by M Kehoe
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To: Revel

In fact, if she’d won, Israel’s SH-style op would be happening about now, with Ginsberg announcing retirement a couple months ago, Comey and Israel confirmed by.... the CURRENT make-up of the Senate? And 2A gone by this summer.


137 posted on 02/24/2018 10:49:11 AM PST by txhurl (The Final Thunderdome: Two Americas enter, One America leaves.)
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To: donna

You might want to reconsider that line of thinking:

“I don’t expect cops to commit suicide in a reckless attempt to save even children.”

1. Commit suicide?? They have been trained on how to approach and wear bullet proof vests and helmets. Dammit, it’s there job to protect, particularly the vulnerable among us who can’t protect themselves. Thank God that most of them are not born cowards.

“However, that’s not the reason the story is changing to what the cops didn’t do.” Yes it is. Facts are coming out. People are pissed off and the good cops are snitching on the inept cowards. And kids are witnesses as well. If they failed to act, they need to be held accountable.

“The goal is to blame guns, not the cowardly killer. (And, for CNN to get ratings.)”

That’s true and the added problem to blaming the killer is that he is a product of their system and they failed him and his community several times over.

It’s the killer who is guilty!

But this is not a trial, yet. There are several people and institutions that we entrust and with our safety. I we PAY them to perform this job and give them pensions for life. When they fail so miserably they need to be held accountable and replaced with men and women that take their jobs and oath of office seriously.


138 posted on 02/24/2018 10:53:02 AM PST by Beautiful_Gracious_Skies
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To: NohSpinZone

“Absolutely. He started mouthing off about gun control the day 1. Never mind his school letting maniacs run loose as they pleased.”

The whole thing is like a recurrent bad dream. It starts off innocuous enough but then you notice an airplane (BSO) and are immediately filled with dread that something bad is going to happen. The plane crashes.


139 posted on 02/24/2018 10:54:00 AM PST by Bonemaker (invictus maneo)
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To: ichabod1

Let’s not forget that it diverts the killing away from the children, which SHOULD come FIRST!!


140 posted on 02/24/2018 10:55:08 AM PST by SgtHooper (If you remember the 60's, YOU WEREN'T THERE!)
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