I don’t expect cops to commit suicide in a reckless attempt to save even children
However, that’s not the reason the story is changing to what the cops didn’t do.
The goal is to blame guns, not the cowardly killer. (And, for CNN to get ratings.)
It’s the killer who is guilty!
If a cop consciously refuses to endanger himself to protect citizens, then maybe they’re in the wrong line of work.
“I don’t expect cops to commit suicide in a reckless attempt to save even children”
Lot’s of former military would be happy to train cops on rapid entry (with minimum intel) that significantly reduces the risk to the breachers.
Me, I going in if it’s helpless kids getting shot. Made my mind up long ago and practice it twice a year. Oh and I am not a cop.
You’re wrong. Stop defending do nothing corrupt cops and these corrupt county fiefdoms.
Sorry but these guys are Billy Bad Ass when its 2 3 on one along side the road confronting an unarmed citizen but it appears when the reality of the job kicks in,”Protect and Serve” they turned out to be PUSSIES
They need to be looking for another line of works
I am in an odd position, my company’s owner decided to ask who all had CHL, then he just kinda deputized us all for no extra pay.
While I appreciate that I can carry at work, self preservation will be my top priority.
If I have a clear shot on my way out the door I’ll take it and when the cops get there I aint gonna get shot but a cop in the chaos.
“I don’t expect cops to commit suicide in a reckless attempt to save even children.”
Sounds logical. But then you think about the young Asian ROTC student, the coach, and another teacher who did risk suicide in a (reckless?) attempt to save “even” children — and died doing it.
Suicide would have been the janitor running in there with a broom for a weapon, while the cops waited outside.
There is a big difference between “committing suicide” and just being cowards like the Broward cops did. They don’t deserve to wear the uniform and the sheriff should be removed from office.
Thank God you are in no way shape or form related to any police force or the military. At least I hope. You want men to be cowards. Are you sure you are on the right website?
What part of that is that job don’t you get? Like my friends who died on nine-one-one. I guess all of the policemen and firemen should have just stayed out the building and stared at it
Contrast that with the middle aged, former NRA instructor in rural Texas who ran out of his house barefoot and solo to engage a mass shooter at the Baptist church next door.
You have it -very- wrong. A cop works as safely as he can. He uses the best tactics and tools he has. But yes, he is expected to endure very high risk to do his job. You called it suicide and it was FAR from certain that going in would result in his death. Was it a serious risk? Yes.
There are three categories of people a cop should see. Innocents on top. Cops in the middle. And bad guys at the bottom. A cop is fully expected to risk his life sometimes to protect someone in an equal or higher category. Other cops and innocents, check. Bandits, no. Conversely, though it is deeply appreciated, no innocent can be expected to risk his life to save a cop.
If the safety of the cop was more important than anything else, even children being murdered, he would never go to work at all.
And again, it wasn’t suicide, it was extremely risky but that’s all and he had a very good chance of prevailing. That’s what men sometimes have to do.
Some dive bombers at the battle of Midway lost their bombs enroute to the fight due to defective arming switches. They made their bomb run just like all the bombers. They knew that the more planes in the air, the more fire they could draw away from the planes that still had a bomb.
Or the Wildcats at the battle of Samar, making strafing runs on a battleship.
Suicidal?
Kids in a school, being shot one by one. Several men outside with guns. That’s far from suicide.
Properly raised men are expected to indeed risk their lives to save the vulnerable such as women and children
Period
Forget cops specifically any good man....l
Where the hell did shame go?
Before today’s artificial security bubble we live in women and children were dead meat if not for men who lived to keep them safe
We forget that too readily
“It’s the killer who is guilty!”
Yes, but so are the cops who didn’t try to save these children’s lives. And FWIW, any committed LEO would not have put his survival ahead of those children.
You might want to reconsider that line of thinking:
“I don’t expect cops to commit suicide in a reckless attempt to save even children.”
1. Commit suicide?? They have been trained on how to approach and wear bullet proof vests and helmets. Dammit, it’s there job to protect, particularly the vulnerable among us who can’t protect themselves. Thank God that most of them are not born cowards.
“However, that’s not the reason the story is changing to what the cops didn’t do.” Yes it is. Facts are coming out. People are pissed off and the good cops are snitching on the inept cowards. And kids are witnesses as well. If they failed to act, they need to be held accountable.
“The goal is to blame guns, not the cowardly killer. (And, for CNN to get ratings.)”
That’s true and the added problem to blaming the killer is that he is a product of their system and they failed him and his community several times over.
It’s the killer who is guilty!
But this is not a trial, yet. There are several people and institutions that we entrust and with our safety. I we PAY them to perform this job and give them pensions for life. When they fail so miserably they need to be held accountable and replaced with men and women that take their jobs and oath of office seriously.
Suicide?
Strawman argument.
There is no suicide.
They have been trained and retrained and they know the building and there are four of them and were armed. Innocent kids were dying. They are sworn to protect, they were told from the beginning it is a combat position and they could be called to do this. They were not under fire at the time, and did not care to look where the fire was. They did not even try.
It was cowardice.
“The goal is to blame guns, not the cowardly killer. (And, for CNN to get ratings.)”
I agree, they are trying to focus the story away from the actual killer. They are blaming guns, they are blaming cops, all the things that they hate. I’m not saying that the cops are not to blame, I mean the sheriffs department, but that shouldn’t be the sole focus of the reporting. Or of peoples anger.
And they’re not blaming the education system or liberalism for creating the problem in the first place.
But we have a lot of good conservative man here, real manly men. And they know that if they were in that situation, the outcome would’ve been different.