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To: Tuketu; NorseViking
Tuketu: "Sounds like the French after WWI; their greed caused a humiliated Germany to back a mad man to even the score."

It wasn't French "greed", it was weakness.
In fact, the Allies treated Germans much better than Germans treated their own victims, i.e., Belgium & Russia.
But unlike post-Second World War, after the First World War Allies did nothing to enforce peace terms.
So aspiring politicians among National Socialists blamed "the Jews" and a "stab in the back", insisting they were never really defeated.

Between the sins of "greed" and weakness, weakness is by far the greater and less forgivable.

31 posted on 03/04/2018 7:00:21 AM PST by BroJoeK (a little historical perspective...)
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To: BroJoeK

The $ rang heavy in the hearts of the French. So the Germans devalued the Mark and used wheelbarrows to pay their debt. True the Allies behaved like Chamberlain. The US went into isolationism, its traditional stance. ALL the former allies were weak! and the French wanted $ too. Weakness was IMHO personified in FDR who allegedly knew of the atrocities against Jews, Gypsies, Catholic Priests etc etc;but did nothing to assist in defeating the Axis until attacked, an event he was allegedly warned of...etc. etc Would he/we have fought Germany had they not declared war on US??? The war was fought, now we’re down to semantics and speculation.


35 posted on 03/05/2018 1:04:45 PM PST by Tuketu (The Dim Platform is splinters bound by crazy glue. TRUMP is the solvent.)
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To: BroJoeK; Tuketu; NorseViking
Bro is correct -- the French asked for Germany to pay for the damage it caused. Remember that most of the fighting was on French or Belgian lands and the French lost millions of men and francs.

The Germans also imposed crippling losses on the Russians -- taking all of what is now Poland, Belarus, Western Ukraine etc.

The "stab in the back" was actually propagated by the German Generals who told the Kaiser to leave before the fighting got to German lands, then handed over to a civilian government who had to signed the armistice and then the generals blamed the civilian government for their own foolishness

If France and the US had fought into German lands then the Germanpeople would not be so eager for war 20 years later.

Look at tGermany and Japan today -- pacifist.

45 posted on 03/19/2018 6:28:32 AM PDT by Cronos (Obama's dislike of Assad is not based on his brutality but that he isn't a jihadi Moslem)
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