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Washington latest state to ban bump stock devices
Guns.com ^ | 03/07/18 | Chris Eger

Posted on 03/07/2018 10:36:02 AM PST by Simon Green

Gov. Jay Inslee, a Democrat who was among the first to call for a ban on the devices last year, signed legislation Tuesday to outlaw bump stocks in Washington.

Inslee applied ink to SB 5992, which makes it illegal to manufacture or sell a bump stock in the state after July and sets a one-year “buy back” program into effect before possession of such devices would become unlawful. The bill passed the Democrat-controlled Senate 31-18 and the House 56-41.

“Devices that turn legal guns into weapons of war have no place in the hands of civilians in Washington state, and sensible gun regulations, including banning these devices, can help reduce violence in our communities,” Inslee said in a press conference attended by state lawmakers and gun control advocates. “I applaud the Legislature for passing this bill, and I encourage lawmakers to continue to work to fight the scourge of gun violence.”

Under the guidelines of the new law, a bump stock is defined as a buttstock that, when attached to a semi-automatic firearm, effectively increases the rate of fire by using the energy from the recoil of the firearm “to generate reciprocating action that facilitates repeated activation of the trigger.” Unlike some recent bans, such as in Massachusetts or New Jersey, it does to target trigger devices such as cranks and binary trigger packs.

Starting July 1, selling or making bump stocks in the state will be illegal, subject to a class C felony, which is punishable by up to five years in prison and up to $10,000 in fines. The Washington State Police is authorized under the measure to purchase bump stocks from owners until July 1, 2019, at a price of $150, a further departure from bans in other states which offer no compensation for turned in devices. For reference, maker Slide Fire currently sells such stocks for $179-$329. Possession in Washington after the expiration of the grace period would be a felony.

On the national level, while at least a half-dozen bills regulating or outlawing bump stocks are pending in Congress, the Trump administration has mentioned the possibility of both actions by federal regulators and executive orders in banning the devices, a hot-button political item since their use in a mass shooting at the Route 91 Harvest festival in Las Vegas last October. Just two days after the incident, where a retired accountant killed 58 and injured hundreds, Inslee called on lawmakers in Washington to ban the once little-known devices. Of note, Inslee is the first Democrat to sign a ban into law in the aftermath of the Las Vegas shooting, with Republican governors signing prohibitions in Massachusetts and New Jersey.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Washington
KEYWORDS: banglist; bumpstock; bumpstocks; inslee; washington

1 posted on 03/07/2018 10:36:02 AM PST by Simon Green
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To: Simon Green

Bumpfire stocks have just TRIPLED in value! Overnight!


2 posted on 03/07/2018 10:45:52 AM PST by 2harddrive
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To: 2harddrive

By the way, from now on I am referring to semi-auto firearms, like a typical rifle before OR after a Bumpfire stock is installed, as a single-shot rifle, since one single trigger pull = one single shot. FULL autos would be multi-shot. Beat’em at their word games!


3 posted on 03/07/2018 10:49:01 AM PST by 2harddrive
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To: Simon Green

F$#% this guy, I’m not a civilian, and this ain’t a warzone. I’m a CITIZEN. Police aren’t the military, so you can shove the term “civilian” right up your alimentary exit.


4 posted on 03/07/2018 10:53:03 AM PST by rednesss (fascism is the union,marriage,merger or fusion of corporate economic power with governmental power)
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To: Simon Green
“Devices that turn legal guns into weapons of war have no place in the hands of civilians...

So sayeth our betters...
5 posted on 03/07/2018 10:55:50 AM PST by mrmeyer (You can't conquer a free man; the most you can do is kill him. Robert Heinlein)
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To: Simon Green
Washington State has gone to hell since I was a kid in the 50’s. I wonder what happened to the MG 42 that one of my Classmates at Madison school in Spokane brought to a show and tell.

His father took it as a souvenir in WW2.

6 posted on 03/07/2018 10:56:29 AM PST by Little Bill (VN 65 - 68)
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To: Simon Green
“Devices that turn legal guns into weapons of war have no place in the hands of civilians in Washington state..."

Sure they do. To stave off tyrannical governments such as Washington State.

...and sensible gun regulations, including banning these devices, can help reduce violence in our communities,”

It is in no wise "sensible" as it is a violation of the 2nd Amendment. Also, had much gun violence with a bump stock?

Question for you Washington State: Which takes precedence? Local laws, State laws, State Constitution, Federal laws, or the US Constitution?

7 posted on 03/07/2018 10:59:38 AM PST by rjsimmon (The Tree of Liberty Thirsts)
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To: 2harddrive; rjsimmon

I defy anyone who voted for this bill to name on instant where an army went in battle with this device OR another murder case(other then Los Vegas) that this was used in.

It’s a friggin gimmick and a not particularly useful one at that.

Political masturbation that’s useless to deter school shootings.


8 posted on 03/07/2018 11:10:23 AM PST by RedMonqey ("You don't tug on Superman's cape...You don't spit into the wind...")
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To: Simon Green
“Devices that turn legal guns into weapons of war have no place in the hands of civilians in Washington state

I'm confused. I thought these "legal guns" were already weapons of war. Which is it?

9 posted on 03/07/2018 11:30:16 AM PST by umgud
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To: RedMonqey

“I defy anyone who voted for this bill to name on instant where an army went in battle with this device OR another murder case(other then Los Vegas) that this was used in.

It’s a friggin gimmick and a not particularly useful one at that.

Political masturbation that’s useless to deter school shootings.”

You are CORRECT, of course, RedMonqey. Thanks for posting!


10 posted on 03/07/2018 12:14:02 PM PST by 2harddrive
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To: rednesss
Why do their police departments have machine guns?

Why is it ok for the government and the police to have machine guns but the people can't even have a bump stock.

Legalize machine guns now. The people of Washington should INSIST.

11 posted on 03/07/2018 1:03:19 PM PST by precisionshootist
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To: Simon Green

SHAME ON THOSE AR 15’S
FOR WHAT HAPPENED AT THE PARKSIDE SCHOOL BLAME GUNS
PREVIOUS GOVERNMENT POLICIES FAILURES MUST BE HIDDEN
The inability to counter this perverted agenda created by the democratic party ( in name only) goose stepping adherents in the media and must be contested. So they make up it is guns and the NRA garbage through their swill mills

DON’T MENTION THIS
A dramatic reduction in disciplinary incidents at Parkside were reported after the selection of Obama’s Chicago friend as school superintendent occurred which was publicly acclaimed.and was receiving large grant from Obama’s Attorney General because of those results. That many critics claimed encouraged criminal activity. Which should require Trump Administration US Attorney General beside find out why when the FBI knew that Cruz should not be able to purchase weapons did. And review these grant programs instituted by the previous Obama administration.

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12 posted on 03/07/2018 1:03:43 PM PST by mosesdapoet (Mosesdapoet aka L.J.Keslin another gem posted in the wilderness)
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To: Simon Green
Washington latest state to ban bump stock devices


It took a tremendous amount of courage for a politician to oppose the bump stock lobby.
13 posted on 03/07/2018 3:18:52 PM PST by The_Media_never_lie (The MSM is the enemy of the American people.)
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To: RedMonqey

One thing that I really like about Free Republic is the amazing incisiveness and the vast quantity of thoughtful and informed analysis and information about a multiplicity of subjects. However, I am EXTREMELY disappointed about much of what has been said of the the bumpfire stock controversy. Much of it sounds has though it was promulgated by the ignorant gun grabbing left.

I am a 2 tour Vietnam infantry and armor combat veteran, and a member of the Illinois National guard for 26 years. I served in a NG Military police battalion has a platoon sergeant and an operations sergeant. I was a certified Illinois State Police Firearms and Defensive tactics instructor, and a member of Special Reaction and SWAT teams. I have fired hundreds of thousands of rounds through automatic weapons of all types, belt and magazine fed, tripod and shoulder mounted, ranging from .45 caliber M-3 sub machine guns up to M2A1 40 mm twin anti-aircraft guns mounted on an M-42 self propelled anti-aircraft gun.

I am retired and spend one day a month on the rifle range shooting my AR-15 rifles. When this slide fire device was first introduced, the low cost and novelty intrigued me and I purchased one. It was a bit awkward to use at first, but in one afternoon, after a bit of practice I was able to get 90% of any length burst on a man sized target at 50 yards, which is close to the normal engagement ranges for truly effective full auto fire from shoulder mounted weapons. It is not as useful has a true selective fire assault rifle since it requires two hands to employ, but it DOES have some measure of limited tactical utility for anyone who practices with it. I never really considered this item to be a true tactical instrument, but I did appreciate the ingenuity and thought that went into turning “bump fire’ into almost as accurate a technique has I could use with a true select fire assault rifle.

Experts who have decried the effectiveness of full auto fire from assault rifles and other shoulder fired weapons are largely correct. I was constantly yelling at my squad to use the “auto” location for the selector switch sparingly. Semi-auto fire is usually most desired and superior, and includes the advantages of duration of sustained fire to prevent barrel overheating and enhances ammo expenditure and accuracy. Auto fire from an assault rifle has the following tactical utility, in the final and close in (100 meters or less) stages of an assault, to gain initial fire superiority, to break contact, particularly has a counter ambush technique, when firing along final protective lines when a perimeter is in danger of being overrun, and to support by fire the maneuver tactics of another element. Leaders should be responsible to control the fire of their subordinates to maintain fire discipline, but in those roles that I have outlined, full auto fire is very useful indeed, even if it is simulated auto fire delivered from a bumpstock.

The battle has been joined. The anti-gun hysterics are in full cry. They will never be satisfied until they achieve near total firearm confiscation. The genie is out of the bottle. You cannot stop psychopaths employing bump fire methods unless you can repeal the laws of Newtonian physics. I realize that some sort of regulation will ensue in the wake of this horrific atrocity. But I don’t like it one damn bit. BTW, you can effectively bump fire with a thick rubber band wrapped around the magazine well and on the trigger on an AR-15, while firing thru the sights from the shoulder.

If they do enact this ban, then any so called “compromise” should include repealing the 1986 Hughes Act which caused the prices of full auto weapons to skyrocket by making it impossible to register newly manufactured NFA firearms. There is NO REASON for a legally transferable M-16 to cost over 50,000 dollars. You can be assured that any such owner will be thoroughly vetted by the background check that would be required to purchase one.


14 posted on 03/07/2018 5:56:40 PM PST by DMZFrank
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To: Simon Green

Show the STUPID legislators why their state is now called FloriDUH!!

Videos: How to Bumpfire Effectively without a Bumpfire Stock! Turn UP your sound!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GIC8SMttjjo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-9fD_BX-afo

No need for a Bumpfire stock. Amazingly fun! Accuracy is naturally compromised, though. Short handgun cartridges have the highest cyclic rate, since less bolt travel is needed.

Bumpfiring is 100% legal, and safe in a properly maintained modern sporting rifle. Some gun ranges do not like it, though, because they feel you don’t have adequate control of the firearm. I am sure that could well be the case of you bumpfired a cartridge anywhere from 7.62 NATO (.308 Winchester) on up.


15 posted on 03/08/2018 11:52:08 AM PST by 2harddrive
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To: DMZFrank

I’ll bow to your experience as an combat vet(Thank you for your service) on using the bump stock to shoot targets. I’m just an “Elmer Fudd”, i.e. hunter with nothing but admiration for those who have been on the other end of the shooting spectrum.
However the liberals and the media tries, “Bump stocks” just cannot be seen as anything other than a curiosity and a clever way to turn semi-autos into something, somewhat similar to full auto. Not “exactly”, not “like” just an poor imitation.

Can you, as a vet, imagine taking this device into combat and placing you life as well as the lives of your fellow soldiers upon the reliability , not to mention the durability of THIS piece of plastic to return fire upon an enemy?

As a “Fudd” I cannot imagine.

It may be fun to burn off a few hundreds of rounds on a sunny weekend of target shooting, but not in warfare.

Hope none of these libs are on the congressional appropriation committee.


16 posted on 03/08/2018 2:39:43 PM PST by RedMonqey ("You don't tug on Superman's cape...You don't spit into the wind...")
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To: Simon Green
They going to ban my finger?


17 posted on 03/13/2018 11:48:15 AM PDT by RightGeek (FUBO and the donkey you rode in on)
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