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Australian Gun Control Means No Self Defense with Firearms
Ammoland ^ | 22 March, 2018 | Dean Weingarten

Posted on 03/26/2018 1:11:11 PM PDT by marktwain

Australian Gun Control Means No Self Defense with Firearms

David Dunstan, an Australian farmer who defended his family from an armed intruder, may have finally gotten his three guns back. His story illustrates much that is wrong with Australia's extreme gun laws.

No one disputes the events that brought David Dunstan and his family to the attention of the authorities.

David Dunstan lives on a rural property near Bungowannah, New South Wales. It is about 10 miles outside the Australian town of Albury.  At 3 a.m. on the 14th of September, 2017 he answered the door and found himself confronting a teen armed with a knife and a large club. He slammed the door shut, and called for his wife to get the key to the gun cupboard.  He retrieved an unloaded .22 rifle and used it to convince the thug that he should get in a car and drive to the police station. The offender is in jail without bail.  He is suspected of invading another house just before he threatened the Dunstans. From weeklytimesnow.com.au:

A farmer who armed himself with an unloaded gun to protect his family from a knife-wielding thug says he fears the justice system is “stacked against” victims. Father-of-three David Dunstan, 52, was left reeling after police turned up at his property near the NSW-Victorian border to investigate the home invasion — and confiscated the farmer’s legal firearms while they were there, the Herald Sun reports. It came after the cattle and crop farmer confronted a teen armed with a knife and a block of wood who knocked on his back door about 3am last Thursday


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TOPICS: Australia/New Zealand; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: australia; banglist; guncontrol; selfdefense
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Self Defense is not illegal, but no firearms licenses are issued with self defense as a purpose. It is illegal to use firearms for any purpose not listed on the license.
1 posted on 03/26/2018 1:11:11 PM PDT by marktwain
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Utter insanity. This sort of “gun control”, so called, simply defies rationality.


2 posted on 03/26/2018 1:16:59 PM PDT by Jack Hammer
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Self Defense is not illegal, but no firearms licenses are issued with self defense as a purpose. It is illegal to use firearms for any purpose not listed on the license.

In other words, self-defense is practically illegal, if not technically illegal.

3 posted on 03/26/2018 1:21:53 PM PDT by Pearls Before Swine ("Married with children.")
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To: naturalman1975

Ping naturalman1975


4 posted on 03/26/2018 1:24:15 PM PDT by marktwain (President Trump and his supporters are the Resistance. His opponents are the Reactionaries.)
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I have spent a few days in Albury. There’s a whole lot of nothing outside of town. It’s the kind of country where you aren’t likely to have to defend yourself often against a feral hominid biped ... but if you do, you’re on your own. Firearms are strongly recommended. Except in Australia and similar places.


5 posted on 03/26/2018 1:25:31 PM PDT by NorthMountain (... the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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To: marktwain

Are assault boomerangs banned too?


6 posted on 03/26/2018 1:28:54 PM PDT by rfp1234 (I have already previewed this composition.)
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To: marktwain

Maybe we should have stayed away from Guadalcanal.......


7 posted on 03/26/2018 1:30:57 PM PDT by Salvavida (The Missouri citizen's militia sends its regards.)
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To: marktwain

And this is basically the entire position of the left.


8 posted on 03/26/2018 1:35:17 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man ( Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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I never would have called the police if I were him. Any intruder would be shot and their body burned or buried. Best of all, since there would be no connection between me and the intruder, investigating his missing persons case would never lead the authorities to me.


9 posted on 03/26/2018 1:41:37 PM PDT by Mafe
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We are told we do not need guns to defend against a tyrranical state because the US is yhis April not dych a state and never will be. But this April 19 will be the 243rd anniversary of Lexington and Concord. No one on the left chooses to remember that those armed encounters happened because the world’s most liberal progressive state sought to disarm its people.
And from the greatest western ever filmed...” A gun is a tool Marion, like an axe , a shovel, anything. A gun is as good or as bad as the man using it. Remember that.”


10 posted on 03/26/2018 1:59:07 PM PDT by xkaydet65
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Would a bucket of rocks for self defense be legal in Australia?


11 posted on 03/26/2018 2:01:34 PM PDT by The Great RJ ("Socialists are happy until they run out of other people's money." Margaret Thatcher)
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I never would have called the police if I were him. Any intruder would be shot and their body burned or buried. Best of all, since there would be no connection between me and the intruder, investigating his missing persons case would never lead the authorities to me.

Exactly. His mistake was thinking he lived in a civilized country. Eventually enough people will start getting the hints, and will stop calling the police for anything.

12 posted on 03/26/2018 2:14:25 PM PDT by zeugma (Power without accountability is fertilizer for tyranny.)
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There’s a new saying going around: “If you own a gun, you also need to own a shovel.”


13 posted on 03/26/2018 2:23:08 PM PDT by elcid1970 ("The Second Amendment is more important than Islam. Buy ammo.")
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To: Jack Hammer

We live in ultra modern future of 2018 and self defense is not a human right not even in the womb. It is absolutely unconscionable.


14 posted on 03/26/2018 2:45:24 PM PDT by shanover (...To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them.-S.Adams)
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“Maybe we should have stayed away from Guadalcanal.......”

And The Battle of The Coral Sea?


15 posted on 03/26/2018 2:46:03 PM PDT by snoringbear (W,E.oGovernment is the Pimp,)
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Exactly. His mistake was thinking he lived in a civilized country. Eventually enough people will start getting the hints, and will stop calling the police for anything.


Australia is a civilized country, with very low crime rates. Killing a teen in this sort of circumstance is beyond the pale for most, and especially in Australia.

While this caused some trouble for David Dunstand and his family, the attention it brought may help to bring about changes in the law.

Australian culture is not anti-self defense. There is a strong independent streak there. The whole extreme gun law situation there was plotted for by a small group of far-leftists and the Australian media, mostly financed by George Soros. If the law had gone through the regular process, not rushed through in a media stirred up frenzy, the law might well have included a provision for self defense in the home.

Don’t give up on Australia.

Like the U.S. Australia is dominated by a very liberal media culture in the big cities. That can change, if Australians figure out a way to get information outside of that data stream.


16 posted on 03/26/2018 3:13:08 PM PDT by marktwain (President Trump and his supporters are the Resistance. His opponents are the Reactionaries.)
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To: xkaydet65

Do you think Shane died in the end?


17 posted on 03/26/2018 3:17:52 PM PDT by Rastus
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To: marktwain

Insane. The English speaking world is a mere shadow of its former greatness.


18 posted on 03/26/2018 4:01:07 PM PDT by Midwesterner53
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To: snoringbear

Not sure if we would have won Midway without Coral Sea....but we could have let the Japanese have Australia for a season. I don’t think the Aussies ever recovered from the Boer War. They forgot how to be men.


19 posted on 03/26/2018 4:06:40 PM PDT by Salvavida (The Missouri citizen's militia sends its regards.)
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To: Salvavida

You probably mean WWI or WWII.

Australia was still a great place, with much more limited government, until the late 1970s.

Still is a great place, but the government has become quite intrusive, and is on the edge of being actively hostile to the rural culture and Christians.

As far as I can see, it is from the domination of the culture and government by the coastal cities, and the rise of Progressive government from the late 1970’s on.


20 posted on 03/26/2018 4:35:25 PM PDT by marktwain (President Trump and his supporters are the Resistance. His opponents are the Reactionaries.)
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