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Confusion—now about hell—is the hallmark of this pontificate
Catholic Culture ^ | March 29, 2018 | Phil Lawler

Posted on 03/30/2018 5:35:16 AM PDT by C19fan

Okay, Pope Francis probably did not say: “There is no hell.” But that’s the headline story for today—for Holy Thursday. And while maybe the interviewer is responsible for an inaccurate quotation, the Pope himself is responsible for the ensuing confusion.

The Vatican, naturally, has rushed out another “clarification.” Notice, however, that the Vatican statement does not actually deny that Pope Francis uttered those words. Because the truth is that nobody actually knows exactly what he said.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: catholic; hell; pope
Would it be going to far to call this Pope a heretic?
1 posted on 03/30/2018 5:35:16 AM PDT by C19fan
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To: C19fan

To hell with the pope.

[That may seem harsh, but it should not bother him at all since he does not believe in hell.]


2 posted on 03/30/2018 5:38:47 AM PDT by WayneS (An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile, hoping it will eat him last. - Winston Churchill.)
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To: C19fan

Heretical statement on GOOD FRIDAY eve. Who is this Pope?


3 posted on 03/30/2018 5:47:15 AM PDT by stars & stripes forever (Blessed is the nation whose GOD is the LORD. Psalm 33:12)
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To: C19fan

I thought he said that the souls of those who do not repent and accept God just cease to exist. That statement does not discount the possibility of Hell’s existence, but it does contradict the Bible.

Are we at the point yet of being able to say “Worst. Pope. Ever.” ?


4 posted on 03/30/2018 5:51:07 AM PDT by Little Pig
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To: Little Pig
Usually modern definitions of hell is the absence of God. Cathecism of the Catholic Church states:

1035 The teaching of the Church affirms the existence of hell and its eternity. Immediately after death the souls of those who die in a state of mortal sin descend into hell, where they suffer the punishments of hell, "eternal fire." The chief punishment of hell is eternal separation from God, in whom alone man can possess the life and happiness for which he was created and for which he longs.

Pope Francis seems to believe in Annihilationism in that he says souls of unrepentant sinners are destroyed. This doctrine goes back to the beginnings of the Church. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Annihilationism

5 posted on 03/30/2018 5:55:12 AM PDT by C19fan
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To: C19fan

No.

Prayers for Holy Mother Church.


6 posted on 03/30/2018 5:59:04 AM PDT by Bigg Red (Francis is a Nincompope.)
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To: C19fan

What’s happening on this Earth is just a mere tiny taste of what the real Hell will be for those who have not called on Jesus to forgive and save them.


7 posted on 03/30/2018 6:05:13 AM PDT by Patriot777 ("When you see these things begin to happen, look up, for your redemption draweth nigh.")
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To: C19fan

Time will tell. We all die.


8 posted on 03/30/2018 6:10:50 AM PDT by Don Corleone
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To: C19fan

No confusion, just read The Holy Bible.


9 posted on 03/30/2018 7:25:53 AM PDT by upbeat5
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To: C19fan

Why succumb to media foolishness, and the word of a 93-year-old atheist who pulled this stunt before?

This happens every Holy Week. The media rushes out some sensational, false, headline to create confusion and deny God.

Think about it: the Jesus Scholars, the ossuary of Jesus’s brother, etc.

Besides, the story was reported by Newsweak.


10 posted on 03/30/2018 7:31:31 AM PDT by SpirituTuo
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To: C19fan

The Pope is the antiPope. He is not saved, not a believer, and not helping his church.


11 posted on 03/30/2018 7:34:34 AM PDT by freedomjusticeruleoflaw
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To: SpirituTuo

I agree, the whole thing written by a 93 year old athiest and published in Newsweek (pretty similar to a 93 year old athiest in a journalistic sense). It’s just BS and has already been called as such by the Vatican.


12 posted on 03/30/2018 7:39:29 AM PDT by nobamanomore
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To: C19fan

No one knows what he said.

And that is news?


13 posted on 03/30/2018 7:40:26 AM PDT by AppyPappy (Don't mistake your dorm political discussions with the desires of the nation)
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To: SpirituTuo

I’ve noticed that as well; Easter is the time to trot out TV specials about “Jesus’ wife”, Mary Magdalene as an apostle, the meteor that struck Sodom & Gomorrah, and every other secular lie to delegitimize Christianity and Judaism.


14 posted on 03/30/2018 7:40:32 AM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic warfare against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: kearnyirish2
The number one priority of the devil is to make people believe you do not exist.

Now if you can get the pope to help your cause...

15 posted on 03/30/2018 8:23:35 AM PDT by WhoisAlanGreenspan?
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To: C19fan

It is misleading to call him the pope while the real pope still lives. Benedict is and will be Pope until his natural death. At which time it is hoped that with guidance of and from the Holy Spirit the conclave can pick a worthy successor.


16 posted on 03/30/2018 9:37:09 AM PDT by cdpap
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To: WhoisAlanGreenspan?

At this point I wouldn’t be surprised if this guy was canonized while he is still alive; as a Catholic I understand much better groups like the Society of St. Pius X and the Orthodox Churches.


17 posted on 03/30/2018 12:10:51 PM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic warfare against white males (and therefore white families).)
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