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To: NorthMountain

Even though firearms registration is not required, all the ATF 4473 forms are maintained by all licensed Firearms Dealers indefinitely.

The ATF can at any time compel a dealer to hand them over for review under the guise of an “audit”.

When a dealer sells the business or retires I believe he/she is obligated to hand over all 4473 forms to the ATF.

So there is a “defacto” registration already in existence ... unfortunately.


11 posted on 04/10/2018 9:55:20 AM PDT by CapnJack
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To: CapnJack

[4473, etc] True ... and it’s a violation of 2A, along with simply having no constitutional authorization.

But that’s not what ignorami are asking about when they ask if your guns are “registered”.


13 posted on 04/10/2018 9:57:36 AM PDT by NorthMountain (... the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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To: CapnJack
"So there is a “defacto” registration already in existence ... unfortunately."

Yes, but AFAIK, the ATF 4473 forms are not digital and while it is not too difficult to trace a single firearm to a particular FFL and retail purchaser, it becomes more problematic to convert all 4473s, most of which remain in the FFL's files, to a digital record. (This is a good thing, IMO.)

27 posted on 04/10/2018 10:08:49 AM PDT by Sooth2222 (Hanlon's Razor: "Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity.")
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To: CapnJack

I’ve purchased all my firearms from private individuals. Not a single 4473 found.


65 posted on 04/10/2018 11:59:46 AM PDT by Alas Babylon! (If white privilege is real, why do we have millions of poor white people?)
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To: CapnJack
To a certain extent.

Does not encompass firearms passed on in a family, given as gifts, long guns sold in private sales...

72 posted on 04/10/2018 1:38:19 PM PDT by Eagles6
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