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Russia's top diplomat: Chemical attack in Syria's Douma staged by foreign special services
Russian News Agency TASS ^ | 4/13/2018 | Tass

Posted on 04/13/2018 5:15:34 AM PDT by Spiridon

Russia has indisputable data that the chemical attack in the Syrian town of Douma was staged by special services of a foreign country, Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov said on Friday.

"The mission of the Organization for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons (OPCW) has set off to Syria not so quickly and without abundant enthusiasm but under our and Syrian pressure. It is due to arrive in Damascus in the morning of April 14th," the Russian foreign minister said.

"We expect the mission to go without any delay to Douma where Russian specialists who examined this place have not found any confirmations of the use of chemical weapons," Lavrov noted.

"We have the irrefutable data that this (chemical attack) was staged," the minister stressed.

"And special services of a country, which is now seeking to be in the first ranks of the Russophobic campaign, were involved in this staged event," Lavrov pointed out.

On April 7, a number of NGO's, including the White Helmets, alleged that chemical weapons were used in Douma, Eastern Ghouta.......

(Excerpt) Read more at tass.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Russia; Syria
KEYWORDS: britain; mullahworshippers; nevertrump; nevertrumper; nevertrumpers; nevertrumpertrolls; putinsbuttboys; sas
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To: rbmillerjr

According to this Syria had gotten rid of 98% of its chemical weapons.

In addition it says that operational control of these weapons had been transferred to the Russians. Russia had even less motive than Syria to make/allow this attack.


61 posted on 04/13/2018 10:38:15 AM PDT by arrogantsob (See "Chaos and Mayhem" at Amazon.com)
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To: arrogantsob

“It is unfortunate when the Russian take on things makes much more sense than the version of reality being pushed in our media.”

A critical difference between Russian and American Media. Russian media is propaganda set out to propagandize facts and give the “Soviet” Russian spin which always shows the West in bad light and Russia as the “innocent as a baby’s bottom” propaganda they spew.

American Media is a ideologically biased media where socialistic spin is spewed, that always is critical of the liberty and freedom side of the news. MORE IMPORTANTLY, it is self-critical of the state and often harbors and Anti American spin showing the US in the most negative light possible.

They are both horrendously bad, but Russian Media loves the state.


62 posted on 04/13/2018 11:07:33 AM PDT by rbmillerjr (Reagan conservative: All 3 Pillars)
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To: Karliner

“You are assuming via the pdf it’s a cut and dry deal, Assad did it. My question remains, why?”

Not assuming anything. A poster incorrectly stated that Syria was proven innocent in prior allegations of chemical attacks.
This information shows many many chemical attacks. Some of which are proven - others where they were denied access to sites and not proven.

My point is with this developed history of using chemical weapons, Syria would be the obvious first direction a reasonable person or analyst would look to for the wrong, since they have done this a multitude of times before.


63 posted on 04/13/2018 11:11:45 AM PDT by rbmillerjr (Reagan conservative: All 3 Pillars)
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To: rbmillerjr

Just ask Obama and Kerry!


64 posted on 04/13/2018 11:22:07 AM PDT by Boardwalk
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To: Spiridon

Well....the Russians are damn liars, but so are the Brits....and the CIA...and the NSA...and the FBI....liars all around.


65 posted on 04/13/2018 11:44:34 AM PDT by Sam Gamgee
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To: The Toll

Yeah there is a propaganda documentary about the White Hats on Netflix. I read the comments and many are pointing out the WH are basically another lying Jihadi group.


66 posted on 04/13/2018 11:46:09 AM PDT by Sam Gamgee
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To: rbmillerjr

Where? Haven’t seen that evidence? Why would they risk a chemical attack on the eve of US withdrawal?


67 posted on 04/13/2018 11:48:43 AM PDT by Sam Gamgee
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To: rbmillerjr
I would not put much faith in the veracity of a pdf pretty much written by the State Dept and the UN. Too many factions and my questions remain. Not to say Putin and Assad are any angels.Be careful.
68 posted on 04/13/2018 12:42:26 PM PDT by Karliner (Jeremiah29:11,Romans8:28 Isa 17, Damascus has fallen)
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To: rbmillerjr

The media loves the state when it is controlled by the Left.

Do they have men in Russia get to use the ladies room?

In many ways the Soviets were and the Russians are more conservative than the West.

Compare the music of Shostakovich to that of Schoenberg for an example of this.


69 posted on 04/13/2018 2:01:08 PM PDT by arrogantsob (See "Chaos and Mayhem" at Amazon.com)
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To: Karliner

“I would not put much faith in the veracity of a pdf pretty much written by the State Dept and the UN.”

What I find pathetic, is that the Russo-Mania types on FR will state what you stated and then gobble up complete Russian propaganda from RT, Tass, Pravda etc.

More than foolhardy, it’s being a useful idiot as championed by the old Soviets.


70 posted on 04/13/2018 5:25:43 PM PDT by rbmillerjr (Reagan conservative: All 3 Pillars)
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To: Spiridon

Who knows to be honest?

Who has a chopper?


71 posted on 04/13/2018 5:26:36 PM PDT by wardaddy (As a southerner I've never trusted the Grand Old Party.....any questions?)
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To: rbmillerjr
Not me. My point in this is I've read the other side. My view is a very foundational biblical perspective. I'm ambivalent of both sides of the propaganda and see Ezekiel 38,39 perspective. If America exacerbates the Syrian civil war then it turns in to a direct conflict with Russia. If we do nothing it still creates the problem. To me, this is the conundrum. I do not see UN being credible, nor Russia and have seen our own government lie so much in the last decades it has made me skeptical. I'm no Putin apologist. Know too many Russians that have told me horror stories.

Doesn't matter what we write now. It appears Trump has ordered the bombing of Syria. The pdf wins. we lose. I guess we are at war, or as they call it now, a conflict.

72 posted on 04/13/2018 6:29:20 PM PDT by Karliner (Jeremiah29:11,Romans8:28 Isa 17, Damascus has fallen)
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To: Karliner

I respect your opinion but we are absolutely not at war.

As I stated the Russians did nothing. In fact, they didn’t even turn their SAM radars on, realizing we could home in on them if we wished.

Russia needs to stop supporting rogue nations that use chemical agents to terrorize people.

Again...no war. A reciprocal and measured response by Trump, who warned he would do this.


73 posted on 04/14/2018 5:22:07 AM PDT by rbmillerjr (Reagan conservative: All 3 Pillars)
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To: rbmillerjr
The larger issue is, what is our Syria strategy moving forward. The current posture has around 2,000 or so Special forces and associate support personnel tasked with chasing down the remnants of ISIS. I'd really like to here a comprehensive review of the entire region articulated.
74 posted on 04/14/2018 5:25:35 AM PDT by corlorde
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To: PIF

The 12er part is involved, some Iranian cleric is saying that he’s here and will lead a war against Israel. Iran has been moving arms and building a proxy army in Syria. That could be the real risk for a major war erupting if it goes unchecked


75 posted on 04/14/2018 6:36:50 AM PDT by Pelham (California, a subsidiary of Mexico, Inc.)
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To: thoughtomator
The UK is now a rogue nation.
76 posted on 04/14/2018 9:40:08 AM PDT by Da_Shrimp
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To: Bulwyf

Bring it on.


77 posted on 04/14/2018 9:41:54 AM PDT by Da_Shrimp
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To: Da_Shrimp

Yeah, pass it on that we got a real problem with your government participating in (and perhaps initiating) an attempt to overthrow ours.

In terms of ways to piss Americans off, that’s really at the top of the list. Run your regime change black ops script on Arabs if you like, but the US is absolutely and non-negotiably off limits to UK mischief.


78 posted on 04/14/2018 12:32:42 PM PDT by thoughtomator (Number of arrested coup conspirators to date: 0)
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To: Vaquero

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>> “The deep state would love for him to f*** up on this.” <<

And they planned and carried out the attack in the first place.

Just like the “false flag” school shooting hoaxes the MSM frames their Gun Grabber propaganda around.
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79 posted on 04/14/2018 12:39:19 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: thoughtomator
the US is absolutely and non-negotiably off limits to UK mischief.

Of course it is. Can't stand May or any of the Tory idiots.

80 posted on 04/14/2018 2:25:59 PM PDT by Da_Shrimp
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