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Roger Stone: Trump Made a Mistake in Syria
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Posted on 04/16/2018 10:23:08 AM PDT by WisconsinRep

The President’s Syrian Mistake
The war-hungry neocon crowd just keeps repeating the same discredited dirty trick


The moment Donald Trump became president-elect, the political and governmental establishments of the United States, in particular the intelligence agencies, commenced nonstop efforts to stall, co-opt and dilute the policies on which Trump ran, and was ultimately elected.

On trade, immigration, tax policy and regulatory reform President Trump has managed to accomplish more than many of his critics and even some of his supporters had thought possible. It is vital to note that some of the president’s policy advisors and even White House aides have tried to kill or dilute many of the policy changes and reforms Trump was enacting. Fortunately, they failed.

They tried to reverse the president’s position on climate change, they tried to dilute his tax cuts, they tried to kill the tariffs he enacted, they tried to undermine his travel ban and there are some who continue to insist that the southern border wall cannot be built.

But more than any of the other policy areas, it is in national defense and foreign affairs that President Trump faces the most ruthless and ubiquitous of would-be usurpers: the so-called neoconservatives. The neocons are dead-set on maintaining their vice grip on American foreign policy and continuing to impose on this country their messianic international designs and risky interventionist schemes that seek to use American military might as the tool of their dubious globalist objectives.

The track record of the neocons is as clear as it is dismal and disturbing. This aberrant sect that has burrowed itself within America’s defense, intelligence and diplomatic hierarchies has given us endless war, 100’s of thousands, if not millions, of human beings slaughtered, and trillions of dollars siphoned out of the pockets of America’s taxpayers, present AND future, only to be squandered on aimless overseas misadventures and prolonged military occupations of hostile 3rd-world countries.

Compounding the injuries and costs they have inflicted on the American people with their hubris-driven overseas military interventions, the neocons have systematically, and in many instances illegally, decimated many of the most fundamental safeguards against tyrannical government that comprise the essence of the Constitution of the United States. The rise of the neocons has been directly proportional to the erosion of civil liberties in the United States of America.

The militarists and spooks who serve this neocon agenda color, hype, fabricate and dress up the intelligence given to the president to induce him to abandon his non-interventionist ideals. They abuse their official capacity to promote a political agenda.

President Trump has great reverence for the institutions of our military, and particular affection for those who serve in America’s armed forces. Unfortunately, the president has not recognized the extent to which the Pentagon was, like every other arm of our federal government, cynically politicized under Barack Obama.

Obama’s apparatchiks methodically promoted and empowered personnel whose leanings are decidedly globalist, while retiring if not purging those suspected of having Republican leanings or a traditionalist conservative view of American military power, whereby our fighting forces exist for our national defense, not as an international police force.

The President gives his foreign policy advisors a presumption of honesty they do not deserve. The pardon of Scooter Libby, who was the immediate underling of perhaps the ultimate neocon warmonger Dick Cheney, merely highlights the president’s failure to recognize how the neocons will simply invent a false narrative and spoon feed it to their handmaidens in the pliant corporate media in furtherance of their war agenda.

The very notion that Syrian leader Bashar al-Assad would launch a chemical attack defies logic, on the face of it. Assad’s Russian backers asserted to the world community that Assad has no chemical weapons. For Assad to randomly launch a chemical weapons attack, he would not only have to defy the international community but also embarrass his patrons, effectively making liars out of them on the global stage.

Assad currently has the upper hand against the Islamic fundamentalist rebels seeking his overthrow. After the president’s missile strike one year ago, in retaliation for Assad’s alleged (yet still unproven) use of chemical weapons, Assad clearly knows the dire consequences and international condemnation that would result from any use of chemical weapons. Not only would such an act amount to a war crime, but it would also reveal that Assad does, in fact, possess these heinous weapons.

Why would Assad ever do this? Why would he take such an unnecessary and provocative action, just days after President Trump announced his intention to withdraw American troops from the area, as soon as possible?

Use of chemical weapons by Assad would only serve those who wish to further enmesh the United States in Syria’s ongoing civil war –a development that Assad undeniably wishes to avoid, not provoke. In fact, such a move by Assad would play right into the hands of those who seek his downfall and want an escalation of American involvement, not those who support President Trump’s desire to limit the misuse of American military power as an illegitimate tool of ‘regime change’.

To be blunt, the sudden, inexplicable use of chemical weapons by Bashar al-Assad would be highly convenient only to those who seek to execute the foreign policy not of Donald Trump, but of the miserable failure he defeated in the 2016 election, Barack Obama’s bellicose foreign policy underling, Hillary Clinton.

The last time Assad was accused of using chemical weapons, the bloodthirsty presidential loser Clinton called for the bombing of Syrian airfields, and is on record as rejecting her former master Barack Obama’s decision not to enforce a no-fly zone over Syria. Such a dangerous and provocative insinuation as Clinton was pushing would certainly antagonize the Russians and create the constant risk of direct military conflict with a heavily-armed nuclear power, if only by accident, that could quickly spin out of control.

Just as the warhawks around the President are selling him a bill of goods on Syria, they also seek to keep the U.S. mired in Afghanistan, perpetuating what is already the longest continuous military conflict in American history, at nearly 17 years and still going.

They are constantly pushing for more and more sanctions against Russia, to punish offenses they can’t even prove were committed by that nation, and are constantly instigating against the Chinese, just as the president seeks to deepen the dialog with each of these countries, towards a strategy of playing the two nations off against each other, while securing from each the most favorable trade deals possible for the United States.

As far as the new strikes in Syria are concerned, let’s not forget how these same underhanded elements incessantly pushing America towards aggressive militarism abroad used the same exact allegation, also totally-unfounded, that Assad had used chemical weapons as their way of stampeding the president into ordering the first airstrikes on Syria, almost exactly one year ago. Even General Mattis had to finally admit, many months after the airstrikes, that there was no proof that Assad had, in fact, used chemical weapons.

This war-hungry neocon crowd just keeps repeating the same discredited dirty trick. They are clearly intent on taking our country to war and undermining Donald Trump’s efforts to de-escalate America’s perpetual military presence in hostile foreign lands, and perhaps even facilitate peace, for a change.

I will continue to support the President but in a few weeks, or perhaps months, it will likely become clear that the alleged chemical weapons attack attributed to Assad was, in fact, a fraud…a ruse…and, ultimately, that these military strikes against Syria were a grave mistake.

Let us hope the neocons have no other dirty tricks up their sleeves, before the president can get a handle on the situation and ascertain the truth of the matter, before he — and our country — are pushed further down the road to yet another fruitless, destructive war…or worse.


TOPICS: Cheese, Moose, Sister
KEYWORDS: alexjones; donaldtrump; fakenews; mistake; rogerstone; rogerstonesanidiot; syria; trump; trumpgwot; withdraw
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Unless it’s a full war, I don’t understand why people are more mad about this than Trump signing the budget.


41 posted on 04/16/2018 11:32:57 AM PDT by TakebackGOP
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To: Kazan
Kazan: Why would Assad use chemical weapons? To regain control of his country faster.

Yeah? How is getting bombed by America going to help Assad "regain control of his country faster?" Trump was ready to leave Syria and now he's not. Assad didn't benefit from this chemical attack. Only Assad's enemies benefited.
42 posted on 04/16/2018 11:33:15 AM PDT by WisconsinRep
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To: Kazan
“Stop listening to Alex Jones and reading Prison Planet.”

Oh I see..so any conservative who thinks risking WW3 over a highly questionable chemical attack is a simple minded dolt who has to rely on Alex Jones in order to formulate a geopolitical stance.

Why don't you stop reading National Review and the rest of the neo-con drivel and start thinking for yourself? You make us deplorable conservatives sound crazy.

43 posted on 04/16/2018 11:36:14 AM PDT by JGT
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To: Snickering Hound

Speaking of Eliot Spitzer, I am pretty sure I saw him walking out of the courthouse on TV footage a few hours ago, the same courthouse where S Daniels and her lawyer were expected to appear.


44 posted on 04/16/2018 11:44:07 AM PDT by supremedoctrine
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To: babble-on
Oh for God's sake. So because Stone had communications with Guccifer 2.0 then he de facto becomes a part of Russian intelligence himself? That's some huge leaps in logic you are making. Mueller got Manafort for the process crime of lying to an FBI agent. If Stone had ANY substantial connections to Russian intell, Mueller would have already charged him with multiple felonies. Mueller has NOTHING on Stone.
45 posted on 04/16/2018 11:44:36 AM PDT by JGT
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To: JGT

Give it time, son.


46 posted on 04/16/2018 11:54:55 AM PDT by babble-on
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To: WisconsinRep

I guess we should have elected Roger Stone as President...


47 posted on 04/16/2018 11:54:59 AM PDT by Iscool
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To: JGT
The Making of the President 2016: How Donald Trump Orchestrated a Revolution
by Roger Stone, 2017



48 posted on 04/16/2018 11:56:54 AM PDT by WisconsinRep
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To: JGT
Oh I see..so any conservative who thinks risking WW3 over a highly questionable chemical attack is a simple minded dolt who has to rely on Alex Jones in order to formulate a geopolitical stance.

What a drama queen. Dropping a few bombs in Syria isn't going to start WWIII. All it does is make Russia and Assad expend more resources and work harder.

Assuming the attack was staged as as crazy as 9/11 truther nonsense. It's crazy.

49 posted on 04/16/2018 12:01:19 PM PDT by Kazan
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To: WisconsinRep
How is getting bombed by America going to help Assad

I answered that. Assad thought he could get away with it AGAIN with the help of the Russians.

He's committed 50 such attacks and most have gone undetected.

50 posted on 04/16/2018 12:02:59 PM PDT by Kazan
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To: 9YearLurker
Assad was winning, we had said we were withdrawing

He and Russia want to win faster and easier. Chemical weapons accomplish that goal.

Paranoia blocks out reason. The staged chemical attacks are as crazy as the 9/11 truth nonsense. Everything is a conspiracy.

51 posted on 04/16/2018 12:05:40 PM PDT by Kazan
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To: Kazan

Flashback:

Award-winning Journalist Says Syria Did Not Use Chemical Weapons

https://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews/foreign-policy/item/26359-award-winning-journalist-says-syria-did-not-use-chemical-weapons

The New American | 27 June 2017

According to Seymour Hersh, a journalist who has won the Pulitzer Prize, President Donald Trump ordered the bombing of Syria in April, despite having no evidence that the Bashar al-Assad government had used chemical weapons in the Syrian Civil War. In fact, Hersh contends that Trump ignored evidence to the contrary when he used 59 Tomahawk missiles to bomb Syria in retaliation against the Assad regime.

“None of this makes any sense,” Hersh reported one U.S. officer saying upon hearing of the planned bombing raid on Syria. “We KNOW that there was no chemical attack.… Claiming we have the real intel and know the truth … I guess it didn’t matter whether we elected Clinton or Trump,” the officer lamented.

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52 posted on 04/16/2018 12:06:39 PM PDT by WisconsinRep
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To: Kazan
You're insane. Playing chicken with the world's second largest nuclear power is every neo cons wet dream. Wake me up when you come back to reality princess.
53 posted on 04/16/2018 12:07:56 PM PDT by JGT
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To: 9YearLurker
The ad hominem attack does nothing for your baseless position.

The ad hominem attack that Trump fired him when he found out he was nuttier than a Payday bar?

Or that the candidate he supported before him before was quite literally a whore?

54 posted on 04/16/2018 12:11:24 PM PDT by Snickering Hound
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To: Snickering Hound

Sources: Roger Stone quit, wasn’t fired by Trump in campaign shakeup

Trump says he fired his campaign adviser. His adviser says he fired Trump.
https://www.politico.com/story/2015/08/sources-roger-stone-quit-wasnt-fired-by-donald-trump-in-campaign-shakeup-121177

...

Roger Stone > 2016–present: Trump ‘16 and Russia

Stone served as an advisor to the 2016 presidential campaign of Donald Trump. Stone left the campaign on August 8, 2015 amid controversy, with Stone claiming he quit and Trump claiming that Stone was fired. Despite this, Stone still supported Trump. A few days later, Stone wrote an op-ed called “The man who just resigned from Donald Trump’s campaign explains how Trump can still win” for Business Insider.

Despite calling Stone a “stone-cold loser” in a 2008 interview and accusing him of seeking too much publicity in a statement shortly after Stone left the campaign, Donald Trump praised him during an appearance in December 2015 on Alex Jones’ radio show that was orchestrated by Stone. “Roger’s a good guy,” Trump said. “He’s been so loyal and so wonderful.” Stone remained an informal advisor to and media surrogate for Trump throughout the campaign.”

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roger_Stone#2016%E2%80%93present:_Trump_%2716_and_Russia


55 posted on 04/16/2018 12:16:47 PM PDT by WisconsinRep
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To: JGT
p17

You're insane. Playing chicken with the world's second largest nuclear power is every neo cons wet dream. Wake me up when you come back to reality princess.

Blitheringly uninformed or nuts. Or both.

56 posted on 04/16/2018 12:18:49 PM PDT by Snickering Hound
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To: WisconsinRep
Despite calling Stone a “stone-cold loser” in a 2008 interview and accusing him of seeking too much publicity in a statement shortly after Stone left the campaign, Donald Trump praised him during an appearance in December 2015 on Alex Jones’ radio show that was orchestrated by Stone. “Roger’s a good guy,” Trump said. “He’s been so loyal and so wonderful.” Stone remained an informal advisor to and media surrogate for Trump throughout the campaign.”

Trump choosing an answer with Alex Jones that would move the discussion to what he really wanted to talk about.

57 posted on 04/16/2018 12:23:52 PM PDT by Snickering Hound
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To: Snickering Hound
In every war fought since the 1960s, American made military equipment did better than Soviet/Russian hardware. Look at the Six Day War of 1967, Vietnam War air combat, and the First Gulf War. These wars were fought at a time when the Soviet Union was spending a fortune on its military establishment and supplying their Middle East allies with their equipment. Post-Soviet Russia has not spent a similar amount of resources to upgrade their military. Despite degradation of the military under Obama, our naval and air superiority is unquestionable.

In this raid, Russia blinked.

58 posted on 04/16/2018 12:27:07 PM PDT by Wallace T.
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To: Snickering Hound

So Russia has NO capacity to retaliate simply because you present a pic of rusty old submarines? I suppose they don’t have ICBMs any more; nor do they have the ability to hack our power grid.

We can crush Russia anytime we want; what you moronic war hawks don’t seem to comprehend is that the risk/reward ratio over questionable chemical attacks simply is not worth it.


59 posted on 04/16/2018 12:28:58 PM PDT by JGT
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To: JGT
p17

Russia's means of retaliation would be turning off the tap.

And their leftover military equipment from the 90's (and earlier) are toxic waste....except for the ICBM's they never use?

60 posted on 04/16/2018 12:34:20 PM PDT by Snickering Hound
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