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Netanyahu: Iran Nuclear Deal Is Based on Lies – Here's the Proof
www.haaretz.com ^ | 04/30/2018 | Noa Landau

Posted on 04/30/2018 10:43:24 AM PDT by Red Badger

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To: WashingtonFire
This is where not all conservatives agree. I cannot accept the "chosen people" argument. If I were inclined toward a specific religion instead of my own philosophical beliefs, I'd base it on the overwhelming sense that Jesus attaches us to our creator.

I also support the right of sovereign nations to protect their sovereignty and choose their allies. I'm also disgusted and embarrassed that the US has been and might still be involved in promoting and enabling regime change in other countries.

You have a right to your views, and I respect them. But please extend the same courtesy to those who aren't supportive of a lot of what Israel does.

61 posted on 04/30/2018 1:35:29 PM PDT by grania (President Trump, stop believing the Masters of War!)
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To: WashingtonFire
The Israelis are God’s chosen people, and everything must be done to protect and strengthen their wonderful country.

You know, that's not what Jesus said:

John 8:39-47
They answered him, “Abraham is our father.” Jesus said to them, “If you were Abraham’s children, you would be doing what Abraham did, but now you are trying to kill me, a man who has told you the truth that I heard from God. This is not what Abraham did. You are indeed doing what your father does.”

They said to him, “We are not illegitimate children; we have one father, God himself.”

Jesus said to them, “If God were your Father, you would love me, for I came from God and now I am here. I did not come on my own, but he sent me. Why do you not understand what I say? It is because you cannot accept my word. You are from your father the devil, and you choose to do your father’s desires. He was a murderer from the beginning and does not stand in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks according to his own nature, for he is a liar and the father of lies. But because I tell the truth, you do not believe me. Which of you convicts me of sin? If I tell the truth, why do you not believe me? Whoever is from God hears the words of God. The reason you do not hear them is that you are not from God.”

In other words, Jesus is literally saying that if they really were of Israel [ie chosen of God], they would accept Him.
So, let's ask this question: Does Israel-as-a-State accept Jesus?
62 posted on 04/30/2018 1:40:24 PM PDT by Edward.Fish
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To: grania

Does Israel have nuclear weapons?


Should the police and the criminals be equally armed?


63 posted on 04/30/2018 1:50:21 PM PDT by Czech_Occidentalist
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To: Ciaphas Cain

“HOW did the Israelis get their hands on it??”

Mossad.

“And can we hire them to find Hillary’s e-mails?”

They likely already have them. If they care that much.


64 posted on 04/30/2018 1:54:06 PM PDT by HKMk23 (You ask how to fight an idea? Well, I'll tell you how: with another idea!)
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To: Ciaphas Cain

Was wondering the same.


65 posted on 04/30/2018 2:01:09 PM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear
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To: WilliamCooper1

Ah. There you are. Have you forgotten - or never heard - God’s command that He will destroy any who speak against the Jew? Perdition bound are you?


66 posted on 04/30/2018 2:04:32 PM PDT by Louis Foxwell (Islam is Satans finest work.)
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To: Red Badger

bump


67 posted on 04/30/2018 2:07:38 PM PDT by Albion Wilde (We're even doing the right thing for them. They just don't know it yet. --Donald Trump, CPAC '18)
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To: Red Badger
Yep.

U.S. Confirms Authenticity of Secret Iran Nuclear Docs, Officials See Game Over for Deal


68 posted on 04/30/2018 2:14:36 PM PDT by familyop ("Welcome to Costco. I love you." - -Costco greeter in the movie, "Idiocracy")
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To: rrrod

American Jews stand by Israel
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1678564/posts

What the British Jews think of Israel’s war
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1678566/posts


69 posted on 04/30/2018 2:17:26 PM PDT by familyop ("Welcome to Costco. I love you." - -Costco greeter in the movie, "Idiocracy")
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To: Louis Foxwell
God’s command that He will destroy any who speak against the Jew?

Qiick! You'd better notify Jesus [via John] and Paul!

70 posted on 04/30/2018 2:41:20 PM PDT by Edward.Fish
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To: Edward.Fish

These 3 men were Jews. They sought to bring salvation to the Jews, God’s chosen people. We are grafted into the tree of Abraham through Christ the Jew. God does not forsake His own.


71 posted on 04/30/2018 2:54:07 PM PDT by Louis Foxwell (Islam is Satans finest work.)
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To: Edward.Fish

*****In other words, Jesus is literally saying that if they really were of Israel [ie chosen of God], they would accept Him*****

Who is this “they” you are posting about? In other words, you are not using correct context when referring to this passage. You need to do more studying before you try to educate others.


72 posted on 04/30/2018 3:06:53 PM PDT by ResponseAbility (The truth of liberalism is the stupid can feel smart, the lazy entitled, and the immoral unashamed)
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To: Louis Foxwell
These 3 men were Jews. They sought to bring salvation to the Jews, God’s chosen people. We are grafted into the tree of Abraham through Christ the Jew. God does not forsake His own.

Except you're equating modern Israel with Jew, I'm not sure that holds… especially given what Jesus said in (a) John 8:39-47, and (b) Revelation 3:9.
And if you want two witnesses, here's John the Baptist:

Matthew 3:9
Do not presume to say to yourselves, ‘We have Abraham as our ancestor’; for I tell you, God is able from these stones to raise up children to Abraham.

73 posted on 04/30/2018 3:13:41 PM PDT by Edward.Fish
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To: ResponseAbility
Who is this “they” you are posting about

They are Jews. See John 8, see verse 48:

The Jews answered him, “Are we not right in saying that you are a Samaritan and have a demon?”
It's right there, continuing the conversation.
74 posted on 04/30/2018 3:20:42 PM PDT by Edward.Fish
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To: richardtavor; Red Badger
Any bets as to how long ittakes for someone to accuse Netanyahu of making it up to cover his ass? Iran is already threatenig the two ‘satans’ now and included Saudi Arabia as well..

How long before some FReeper accuses the original poster of spreading "globalist"/"neocon" propaganda?

75 posted on 04/30/2018 3:23:59 PM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (Vegam Yehudah tillachem biYrushalayim . . . .)
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To: WilliamCooper1; richardtavor; Red Badger
“Does Israel have nuclear weapons?”

BINGO. Yet, the Israel first crowd on this board would send their children to die in a war for Israel before they gave a can of soup to the poor. Sad.

TA-DA!!!!

It's a Zionist/Communist/Bolshevik plot against our Aryan brethren, the Iranians![/sarcasm]

WilliamCooper1 is just mad because he wanted America's kids to die for our racial brethren in Rhodesia, South Africa, and Nationalist China(?). But oh no, those "rednecks" believe those Bible stories!

76 posted on 04/30/2018 3:29:52 PM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (Vegam Yehudah tillachem biYrushalayim . . . .)
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To: Red Badger; All

Historical context for today’s Netanyahu presentation in English, explicitly directed at Trump, on Iran.

In 2002, he told the U.S. Congress “If you take out Saddam, Saddam’s regime, I guarantee you that it will have enormous positive reverberations on the region.”

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wHmhf_wrcrM


77 posted on 04/30/2018 3:48:42 PM PDT by Enlightened1
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To: Red Badger; All

For the record, if Israel is hit with a nuke by Iran, then I have no problem with striking Iran with a nuke.

Preemptive strikes/war can lead to very bad things. Our Republic has been at war for a very long time.

If Israel wants to fight Iran, then that is there business.

I just don’t want to see another endless war in the middle east where we spend Trillions of dollars, get a bunch of Americans killed and get squat for return.


78 posted on 04/30/2018 3:55:51 PM PDT by Enlightened1
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To: Edward.Fish

Yes they were Jews, considering they were in ISRAEL! Who specifically were they?


79 posted on 04/30/2018 4:13:03 PM PDT by ResponseAbility (The truth of liberalism is the stupid can feel smart, the lazy entitled, and the immoral unashamed)
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To: ResponseAbility
Yes they were Jews, considering they were in ISRAEL! Who specifically were they?

Well, I can see someone didn't read the text.
Just prior the exact quote, it is 'disciples' (not the Twelve) that he's talking to.

But in any case, you've just made your attempted correction even worse: if Jesus is this strict with those hearing and accepting his message then what of an Israel that rejects Him?
Now, obviously these particulars were the portions of the crowd that weren't believing Him, because if they were they wouldn't be seeking to kill Him, by Jesus' own words as I cited them.

80 posted on 04/30/2018 4:28:50 PM PDT by Edward.Fish
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