Posted on 05/12/2018 8:03:14 AM PDT by rktman
The recent attacks on the president’s nominee, Gina Haspel, for the top spot in the CIA due to her involvement in the use of enhanced interrogation techniques by our DOD after 9/11 have me confused.
As a member of the U.S. military, I myself had to endure many of these same techniques. For the record, I am far from the only one.
This is a very controversial topic. Many senators, like former prisoner of war Sen. John McCain (R-AZ), stand in opposition to Haspel’s nomination, stating that “Her refusal to acknowledge torture’s immorality is disqualifying.” Democrats like Kamala Harris were very displeased that they could not get Gina Haspel to agree that the enhanced interrogations utilized in the past were immoral and unethical.
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Excellent post! Thank you.
You are most welcome on this fine cool Reno morning. Oh, wait. Are the bears waking up down in the Genoa area already? LOL!
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3654666/posts
From the NYTimes.
Was this a one time event? Would something happen tomorrow...or the next day or the next day.
This was war. You do what ya gotta do.
So Proud of President Bush and Rudy Guiliani standing in the midst of it all.
No one was connecting the dots. They were asleep......
I served with a man who went through this training.
America will never understand the level of devotion that protects her.
So rktman, how are the Mormons doing down in Genoa today? Genoa was a Mormon Settlement when Nevada was part of the Utah Territory. Maybe they’re singing hymns with the bears!
There were and are LOTS of sucky things service folks are subjected to. For the most part, they stand tall and do what needs doing. We did lots of sucky things and stayed up lots and lots of sucky hours but........................ That’s what we did.
Probably providing tea and cakes as they wake up. ;-)
They are “immoral or unethical” if they continue after the collecting of the needed information. Waterboarding and many other forms of interrogation are there as a threat if they wish to bring it upon themselves. If the information they have that can, and often does, save innocent lives from both sides, is released, it never starts. The decision to be interrogated is this manner is that of the interrogated. It doesn’t have to happen if you give the info. Choose wisely.
rwood
I got waterboarded in SERE School, twice, many many years ago prior to deploying to VN. It sucked but it wasn’t torture.
I got waterboarded in SERE School, twice, many many years ago prior to deploying to VN. It sucked but it wasn’t torture.
Me TOO! Warner Springs
Yup. Thats the place!
Yeah, I got waterboarded too.
To the point of unconsciousness. They never asked me a question, just the LtJG pilot that was forced to watch.
Later in the course he told me he eventually relented when he saw I wasn’t moving or struggling anymore and had to be revived by the docs.
I tend to think it’s torture.
And I would gladly apply it to a terrorist if I thought I could extract useful information.
It’s not at all as tame as depicted in the media. The Khmer Rouge style of waterboarding is quite violent and can be a life-altering event.
And that’s what was practiced in Navy SERE in 1978 in Warner Springs.
If another terror attack happens in a Dem city, I’ll have a Coke.
Unless you’re a Muzzie, little Johnny McPain or a ‘RAT sissy boy. Then it’s “living hell”. LOL.
Sheesh. You mean it wasn’t just now invented? LOL!
I support waterboarding and every other discomfort technique using on us during SERE training and now called enhanced interrogation methods. I took my SERE training in Little Creek, Virginia in 1969. The water boarding brings on panic and lots of it, but a half minute after it’s over and you’ve coughed out all the water, you are fine.
As for the box. I don’t know why it is considered so bad. You have to sit hunched over, because it’s not high enough to sit up straight, but I liked it, because it was dark and gave me an opportunity to get 10 or 15 minutes of sleep.
I didn’t like the rifle butts though (rifles had a an extra thick rubber pad on the butt). Rifle butts would leave a light bruise, but nothing permanent. I must have gotten 40 or 50 of these. We had one SEAL in my SERE group, several officers up to the rank of Navy Captain, and several of the guys I went through Boat School with (they would call us SWCCs today).
I have to admit, SERE was the most uncomfortable 6 weeks of my life, and I would not want to repeat it, but there was no permanent injury and I fully support its use on any captured terrorist (maybe even to a level past that I experienced).
If you experienced the E and E course at Stead you know what this sheite is all about.
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