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Kasich attacks GOP for not opposing Trump on tariffs, DACA
Associated Press ^ | June 2, 2018 9:23 PM EDT

Posted on 06/02/2018 6:45:21 PM PDT by Olog-hai

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To: NobleFree

Gosh - last I saw, the “judges” were saying DACA couldn’t be stopped by Trump for much of any reason - he’s prejudiced don’t ya know....sometimes “Judges” assert certain things because it is convenient for them to do so merely because it fits their agenda - remember Roberts on ObamaCare?


61 posted on 06/05/2018 2:38:39 AM PDT by trebb (Too many "Conservatives" who think their opinions outweigh reality these days...)
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To: Olog-hai

Ohio, a manufacturing state, will benefit greatly from an import tariff. Why don’t these GOPE RINOs get it?


62 posted on 06/05/2018 2:56:48 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn)
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To: Lee25
I used to like kasich and McCain

So yourself a favor and don't ever say that in public again.

63 posted on 06/05/2018 2:58:14 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn)
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To: Olog-hai

Be nice if the AP(AllPropaganda) ignored this loser asshat and paid attention to the growing multitude of other Republican jumping on board the Trump train! Won’t happen but it would be nice.


64 posted on 06/05/2018 3:02:36 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn)
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To: trebb
Gosh - last I saw, the “judges” were saying DACA couldn’t be stopped by Trump for much of any reason

Where did you see that - in an actual ruling?

65 posted on 06/05/2018 10:39:52 AM PDT by NobleFree ("law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the right of an individual")
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To: NobleFree
Where were you when the deadline was coming up and the Judge deemed it could not be ended???

Do your own searches - the info is out there.

66 posted on 06/06/2018 2:38:02 AM PDT by trebb (Too many "Conservatives" who think their opinions outweigh reality these days...)
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To: Olog-hai

Kasich is the only person on God’s green earth who doesn’t now he’s irrelevant.


67 posted on 06/06/2018 3:31:25 AM PDT by MayflowerMadam (Have an A-1 day.)
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To: Olog-hai

John who?


68 posted on 06/06/2018 3:35:57 AM PDT by bmwcyle (People who do not study history are destine to believe really ignorant statements.)
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To: trebb
Where did you see that - in an actual ruling?

Where were you when the deadline was coming up and the Judge deemed it could not be ended???

So that's: no, you never read the actual rulings. I am Jack's complete lack of surprise.

69 posted on 06/06/2018 5:47:55 AM PDT by NobleFree ("law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the right of an individual")
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To: trebb
"All agree that a new administration is entitled to replace old policies with new policies [...] the new administration didn’t terminate DACA on policy grounds. It terminated DACA over a point of law, a pithy conclusion that the agency had exceeded its statutory and constitutional authority." - Napolitano v DHS

The other court rulings said basically the same thing:

Batalla Vidal v. Nielsen: "Defendants indisputably can end the DACA program. [...] The question before the court is thus not whether Defendants could end the DACA program, but whether they offered legally adequate reasons for doing so. Based on its review of the record before it, the court concludes that Defendants have not done so. First, the decision to end the DACA program appears to rest exclusively on a legal conclusion that the program was unconstitutional and violated the APA and INA."

NAACP v. Trump: "Like its evaluation of its statutory authority to implement DACA, then, the Department’s analysis of DACA’s constitutionality was so barebones that the Court cannot “discern[]” the “path” that the agency followed. Encino Motorcars, 136 S. Ct. at 2125 (citation omitted).23 Thus, it too cannot support DACA’s rescission."

70 posted on 06/06/2018 7:41:29 AM PDT by NobleFree ("law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the right of an individual")
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To: zeestephen
ping
71 posted on 06/06/2018 7:45:20 AM PDT by NobleFree ("law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the right of an individual")
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To: trebb; zeestephen
Also from NAACP v. Trump: "while immigration policies are generally “so exclusively entrusted to the political branches of government as to be largely immune from judicial inquiry or interference,” there are good reasons to scrutinize a policy more carefully when it is based solely on an agency’s reading of domestic statutory law."
72 posted on 06/06/2018 8:02:06 AM PDT by NobleFree ("law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the right of an individual")
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To: NobleFree
Too lazy to do a search with the words "judge says daca must continue"?
73 posted on 06/08/2018 1:59:05 AM PDT by trebb (Too many "Conservatives" who think their opinions outweigh reality these days...)
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To: trebb
No support there for your claim that 'the “judges” were saying DACA couldn’t be stopped by Trump for much of any reason' - a claim I've demolished with quotations from the actual rulings. Read them again, slowly - move your lips if it helps.
74 posted on 06/08/2018 8:01:21 AM PDT by NobleFree ("law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the right of an individual")
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To: NobleFree
Yeah - "Judges" making rulings and using John Roberts "rationales" (excuses) about the rulings.....funny how they never made them statements/excuses when Obama went illegal and started this crap - and had a built-in deadline.

If you think it's as simple as the language being used, then you really need to stop criticizing others for not understanding....

75 posted on 06/09/2018 2:53:05 AM PDT by trebb (Too many "Conservatives" who think their opinions outweigh reality these days...)
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To: trebb
funny how they never made them statements/excuses when Obama went illegal and started this crap

0bama didn't make the mistake of claiming his move was to correct a prior unlawful and unconstitutional enactment - the current administration did.

Three courts have now stated that Trump has the authority to end DACA as a policy decision ... the ball's in his court.

76 posted on 06/09/2018 7:56:41 AM PDT by NobleFree ("law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the right of an individual")
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