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Iraqi Armored Brigade Ditches U.S. M1 Abrams For Russian T-90 Tanks
The Drive ^ | JUNE 8, 2018 | JOSEPH TREVITHICK

Posted on 06/10/2018 8:00:47 PM PDT by sukhoi-30mki

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1 posted on 06/10/2018 8:00:47 PM PDT by sukhoi-30mki
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To: sukhoi-30mki

I thought ISIS got all of Iraq’s good equipment when Iraq’s army turned tail and ran from them.


2 posted on 06/10/2018 8:07:20 PM PDT by McGruff (There's a new sheriff in town.)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

A not so talked about country, but still kinda related:

‘Bulgaria To Replace Soviet MiG Jets With NATO Allies’ Planes’

https://www.rferl.org/a/bulgaria-replace-soviet-mig-29-figher-jets-nato-allies-planes-armoured-vehicles/29281002.html


3 posted on 06/10/2018 8:08:53 PM PDT by CondoleezzaProtege
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To: sukhoi-30mki
After all of the US sacrifice in Blood and Treasure, this only proves that the Shi'ite Muslims are unappreciative and unreliable Barbarians.

And thanks to the Obamster, their Iranian mentors are billions of US dollars richer with our M1 Abrams thrown in for good measure.

4 posted on 06/10/2018 8:09:11 PM PDT by wmileo
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Get this Chrystal CLEAR .George bush created a living night mare in Iraq by attacking them for no reason on false pretext. Shiites hate sunnis. Saudi Sunnis are the number one exporter of terrorism by far ( Al qaeda and isis , for example) , We screwed things up and the Christian Russians moved into support the Shiite Iraqis that now rule, Very wise. Now the Iraqis sell oil to the Chines that should have gone to us for our 5000 dead and 40,000 wounded and take those billions and buy Russian tanks, How stupid were we?


5 posted on 06/10/2018 8:10:34 PM PDT by raiderboy (" weÂ’ll close down the country because we need border" DJT NOW !!)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Very informative and interesting.

Yeah, the Middle East is turning to China. China has need of a peaceful ME, and- through Russia and Iran- is willing to invest in getting it.


6 posted on 06/10/2018 8:11:53 PM PDT by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat/RINO Party!)
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To: CondoleezzaProtege

Not really related, since Eastern Europe have ‘hated’ the Russians since the end of the Warsaw Pact. The only reason why it took Bulgaria this long was its finances; it’s doing something its neighbors started doing a decade ago.


7 posted on 06/10/2018 8:15:41 PM PDT by sukhoi-30mki
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To: sukhoi-30mki

I would say they are probably much cheaper to operate than the M1. The current military guys in Iraq are probably used to operating Soviet era tanks anyways. You really need a well trained crew to maximize the M1.


8 posted on 06/10/2018 8:18:24 PM PDT by miliantnutcase
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To: wmileo

“After all of the US sacrifice in Blood and Treasure, this only proves that the Shi’ite Muslims are unappreciative and unreliable Barbarians.”

I’ve said the very SAME thing over the years on FR, even back in 03’. We should have confiscated the damn oil wells and made money for ourselves, and to give the proceeds to the fallen soldiers families. The damn Iraqis then sold the oil wells rights to those “allies” who didnt help us during the Invasion like France etc.


9 posted on 06/10/2018 8:19:36 PM PDT by max americana (Fired libtard employees 9 consecutive times at every election since 08'. I hope all liberals die.)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

LOL, the the Russians has stolen the Israeli Merkeva wedge turret design. So at least that proves that the wedge is helpful in deflecting incoming rounds.


10 posted on 06/10/2018 8:29:16 PM PDT by prophetic (Trump is today's DANIEL. Shut the mouth of lions Lord, let his enemies be made the Cat Food instead.)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Shifting allegiances or practicality?


11 posted on 06/10/2018 8:40:28 PM PDT by BBell (not drinking, just a smart a$$)
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To: wmileo

The main problem is the Iraqi Army cannot maintain US equipment and Russian gear is designed for uneducated peasants. The Afghan Army did the same thing.


12 posted on 06/10/2018 8:42:11 PM PDT by ClayinVA ("Those who don't remember history are doomed to repeat it")
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To: raiderboy

Well-stated.


13 posted on 06/10/2018 8:45:43 PM PDT by logi_cal869 (-cynicus-)
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To: wmileo

Almost correct. You have a redundant word in there which actually subtracts from your post.


14 posted on 06/10/2018 8:46:42 PM PDT by MrEdd (Caveat Emptor)
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To: sukhoi-30mki
Who cares? I don't want the US giving anything to Iraq. Let them pay cash.

Iraq is a backwards shiite hole whose best soldiers throw down their weapons and run away at the first sign of trouble.
 

15 posted on 06/10/2018 8:58:48 PM PDT by Governor Dinwiddie (MAGA in the mornin', MAGA in the evenin', MAGA at suppertime . . .)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

The new Soviet tank looks more vulnerable to anti-tank missiles that are aimed between the tank body and the turret, and I don’t just mean the RGPs.

My son’s opinion of the 2003 Soviet T-72 tank was, a pile of aluminum junk. He was attached to the 3rd ID and saw what was left of the Iraqi Republican Guards after we wiped them at out Objective Peach, Hindaya, Eastern Bank of the Euphrates on April 3-4, 2003.

He could have made a fortune by opening up “Josh’s Scrap and Junkyard” near that city. Unfortunately he was rather busy killing enemy terrorists and snipers. I guess someone else got the metal.


16 posted on 06/10/2018 9:28:16 PM PDT by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: McGruff; SJackson; SunkenCiv
These Shi’ite Iraqi groups, which receive significant support from Iran, have operated under official sanction as members of the country’s Popular Mobilization Units (PMU) since 2014. In 2016, PMUs officially became part of Iraq’s armed forces.

The U.S. government apparently only decided to make clear that it did not approve of the Abrams going to the PMUs sometime after October 2017. At that time, PMUs that had acquired Abrams took part in the Iraqi government’s swift and violent campaign to crush a push for independence in Iraq’s semi-autonomous Kurdish Region.

Gosh. What else changed between mid-year 2016 and 2017, when the US government began dooing something about the loss of US hi-tech weapons to ISIS-HAMAS-Hezzbollah?

17 posted on 06/10/2018 9:35:19 PM PDT by Robert A Cook PE (The democrats' national goal: One world social-communism under one world religion: Atheistic Islam.)
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To: raiderboy

Saddam was in violation of the cease fire agreement which ended the first Gulf War. Had been for years. Feckless Bill Clinton kicked the can down the road for eight years.


18 posted on 06/10/2018 9:41:02 PM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either satire or opinion. Or both.)
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To: raiderboy

Iran’s shill crawls out of his dinner of fecal matter. Are you getting paid from the billions Obama paid them>

Shiites AND Sunnis are our enemies. We deal with them only as needed.

We should have nuked all muslim capitals in the Gulf and Mideast & SE Asia on 9/12 and spent these last years hunting down their agent.

And the war with Iraq WAS justified, we should have dealt with them like we did with Germany: FLATTEN THEIR CITIES, close ALL MOSQUES, de-jihaidify and TAKE THEIR OIL TO PAY FOR IT.


19 posted on 06/10/2018 10:11:36 PM PDT by BTerclinger (MAGA)
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To: raiderboy

“in Iraq by attacking them for no reason on false pretext.”

Either you’re one of those ron paul retards, or you’re a commie from DUmmieland.

But whatever you are, let me break it down for you...

Waaaay back in August 1990, Iraq invaded Kuwait. The UN Security Council (UNSC) issued 11 resolutions calling for Iraq to leave Kuwait to which Iraq ignored them. Then on 29 November 1990 the UNSC issued a 12th and final resolution (UNSCR 678) that stated among the following:

“gave Iraq until 15 January 1991 to withdraw from Kuwait and empowered states to use “all necessary means” to force Iraq out of Kuwait after the deadline. The Resolution requested Member States to keep the Council informed on their decisions. This was the legal authorisation for the Gulf War, as Iraq did not withdraw by the deadline.”

Gulf War: 17 January 1991 – 28 February 1991.

United Nations Security Council Resolution 687, adopted on 3 April 1991 set the terms, with which Iraq was to comply after losing the Gulf War. In other words this is known as a CEASE FIRE AGREEMENT that Iraq accepted (signed) the terms of the agreement on 6 April 1991.

For the next 12 years Iraq played cat and mouse with the weapons inspectors, fired on coalition forces and in general ignored all of the provisions of the cease fire agreement that they signed.

During those 12 years the coalition would conduct pin prick strikes that didn’t do anything.

Before those 12 years were up, 9/11 happened and that changed EVERYTHING, and upon further review Iraq not only was violating the cease fire agreement, but they were supporting terrorist groups.

Resolution 1441 stated that Iraq was in material breach of Res 687 paving the way for the resumption of armed conflict per Res 678.

Now, all member nations of the security council have their own intelligence agencies. Those members who voted to authorize 1441, their agencies corroborated the intel we had on Iraq. And thanks to your fellow democrats, Iraq had plenty of time to ship out/hide/destroy the most egregious parts of their weapons program. Iraq had tons of yellow cake uranium that they were not allowed to have. Our troops also found thousands of gallons of industrial grade insecticide stored at military bases. Now you may think insecticide is no big deal but the fact is that chemically there isn’t much difference between an insecticide and a military grade nerve agent except for mix ratios and one or two added chemicals to boost the toxicity to humans.

Read this: https://mobile.nytimes.com/1984/03/30/world/nerve-gases-and-pesticides-links-are-close.html

And this:
https://www.opcw.org/about-chemical-weapons/what-is-a-chemical-weapon/

And this:
https://www.opcw.org/about-chemical-weapons/types-of-chemical-agent/nerve-agents/

And this:
http://hir.harvard.edu/article/?a=1417

Any questions?

Have a nice day


20 posted on 06/10/2018 10:26:21 PM PDT by 2CAVTrooper (Democrats... BETRAYING America since 1828.)
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