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California has billions in extra money. Why don't taxpayers get a refund?
The Sacramento Bee ^ | June 13th, 2018 | By Adam Ashton

Posted on 06/13/2018 6:26:07 AM PDT by Mariner

California state government has so much money this year that it’s opening two new savings accounts so it can keep socking away even more cash for the rainy day that Gov. Jerry Brown says is just over the horizon.

That tactic — setting a course to pile up $16 billion in savings over the next 12 months — should reassure taxpayers that cuts to government services won’t be as severe as they were a decade ago when the state’s economy plummeted into the Great Recession.

But the money is inviting a different kind ofpolitical problem for majority Democrats. It could be used to fuel the campaign that would repeal the 12-cent-a-gallon gas tax that they and Brown championed last year to lock in $52 billion in road repair funding for the next decade.

That record surplus gives gas tax opponents a simple message for their social media posts and radio ads.

“Why do we need the highest gas tax in the nation when we have this surplus?” asked Jon Coupal, executive director of the Howard Jarvis Taxpayers Association, who is working on the gas tax repeal campaign.

(Excerpt) Read more at sacbee.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: california; revenue; taxes
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Filthy rich, but they jumped the shark with the new gas tax (12 cents on top of the existing 18 cents).

They claimed poverty was the reason the gas tax was needed as the state could not afford to fix roads.

1 posted on 06/13/2018 6:26:07 AM PDT by Mariner
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Suppose they had a cut in government services and nobody noticed.

ML/NJ

2 posted on 06/13/2018 6:28:02 AM PDT by ml/nj
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“Suppose they had a cut in government services “

They would rot in the gutters of hell first.


3 posted on 06/13/2018 6:29:32 AM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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They’ll just pump up their own pensions .

“Aaaaand....it’s gone”


4 posted on 06/13/2018 6:30:42 AM PDT by digger48
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I thought the elimination of the state tax subsidy(SALT) was going to leave Cali. broke. Yet another liberal lie.


5 posted on 06/13/2018 6:31:05 AM PDT by deadrock
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The $$$$ will go to the Bullet train disaster.


6 posted on 06/13/2018 6:33:24 AM PDT by mplc51
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Hey Kalifornia, how about putting that surplus towards your looming massive shortfall in your pension fund?

http://www.sacbee.com/opinion/california-forum/article209303974.html

7 posted on 06/13/2018 6:33:29 AM PDT by Yo-Yo (Is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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That or the state’s outstanding debt. There is no such thing as a surplus if you are in debt.


8 posted on 06/13/2018 6:35:13 AM PDT by NRx (A man of integrity passes his father's civilization to his son, without selling it off to strangers.)
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it can keep socking away even more cash for the rainy day that Gov. Jerry Brown says is just over the horizon...

That "rainy day" is your secession from the union, when you will owe your share of the national debt.

9 posted on 06/13/2018 6:36:32 AM PDT by C210N (Republicans sign check fronts; 'Rats sign check backs.)
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To: Yo-Yo

16 billion? That’s enough to build 5 desalination facilities, infrastructure to move the water to reservoirs, solar and wind farms to run the facilities and still have enough money to pad some government employees OT.


10 posted on 06/13/2018 6:37:44 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (Proud member of the DWN party. (Deplorable Wing Nut))
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To: Mariner

California is being smart. Boom times are when government should stockpile revenues, then they can cut taxes to help when the economy slows.

If you cut taxes when the economy is strong, what do you do when growth falls, as cyclically it always does? Unlike the Federal government California cannot print unbacked IOU’s.


11 posted on 06/13/2018 6:39:03 AM PDT by babble-on
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Precisely!

Add to which one strongly suspects that any surplus is overstated.

12 posted on 06/13/2018 6:39:18 AM PDT by Seaplaner (Never give in. Never give in. Never...excepto for convictions of honour and good sense. W. Churchill)
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“looming massive shortfall in your pension fund”

They’re saving that for another “special tax” just for pensions.

They promise this time.


13 posted on 06/13/2018 6:40:57 AM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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“Unlike the Federal government California cannot print unbacked IOU’s”

Sure they can.

They are State Revenue Bonds.

The pension funds own $10’s of billions of them.


14 posted on 06/13/2018 6:43:34 AM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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Because with slight of hand accounting it will be redirected to the tens of billions of underfunded State Employees Pension Funds.


15 posted on 06/13/2018 6:43:41 AM PDT by DAC21
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Give money back to people who’ve earned it???

NONSENSE!!!!


16 posted on 06/13/2018 6:44:08 AM PDT by null and void (Have the courage to shine the light of reason in a dark world)
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Solve some problems with the damn money.

Build a couple desalination plants.

17 posted on 06/13/2018 6:45:39 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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Refund? You get NOTHING!

All your money are belong to us.


18 posted on 06/13/2018 6:51:42 AM PDT by sevlex
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To: Mariner

Perhaps they could shore up their pension funds.


19 posted on 06/13/2018 6:57:09 AM PDT by taxcontrol (Stupid should hurt)
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“Unlike the Federal government California cannot print unbacked IOU’s”

They issued IOUs before, in 1991 or 92, when the legislature did not pass a budget. I do not believe they were backed by anything. They were paying teachers and other state workers with IOUs that earned 7 or 8 percent interest, which was not high at that time. They urged private businesses to accept them.

The private businesses who did accept the IOUs then started threatening to use the IOUs to pay their state taxes if the budget impasse lasted through tax season.


20 posted on 06/13/2018 7:01:15 AM PDT by Flash Bazbeaux
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