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America’s Moment of Truth With North Korea Is Coming
The Atlantic ^ | July 10, 2018 | Uri Friedman

Posted on 07/10/2018 6:04:47 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

Mike Pompeo’s visit wasn’t it. But the visit hinted at what it might look like.

One eight-word assumption underlies American and South Korean negotiations with Kim Jong Un: “North Korea will give up its nuclear weapons.” That’s what the analyst Cheon Seong Whun told me ahead of Secretary of State Mike Pompeo’s trip to Pyongyang this past weekend. For his part, Cheon, a security adviser in the conservative administration of former South Korean President Park Geun Hye, sees not a “scintilla of hint” that the North Korean leader is prepared to do so, despite Kim’s vague promise to Donald Trump in Singapore to “work toward complete denuclearization of the Korean peninsula.”

At some point, now that the spectacle of Trump and Kim meeting is over, the American and South Korean leaders will have to judge whether the dismantling of North Korea’s nuclear program is really achievable, Cheon told me. “That is the moment of truth.”

The truth did not have its moment over the weekend in Pyongyang. But it did come under serious scrutiny for the first time since last month’s Trump–Kim summit. And it was tough to look at. Cho Yoon Je, the South Korean ambassador to the United States, told me last week that these negotiations are different than past, failed efforts because they aim to do more: make progress on denuclearization and simultaneously improve North Korea’s relationship with the United States and South Korea. The idea is that this approach will allow longtime adversaries to build enough trust to risk major concessions. It turns out, however, that even the effort to generate goodwill has become a source of rancor and disagreement. Pompeo’s meeting with his negotiating partner Kim Yong Chol, which yielded nothing concrete but an angry statement from the North Korean Foreign Ministry....

(Excerpt) Read more at theatlantic.com ...


TOPICS: Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: asia; donaldtrump; kimjongun; korea; mikepompeo; northkorea; pompeo; trump
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1 posted on 07/10/2018 6:04:47 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I think the moment of truth is on us. I hope Trump is not trying to push this off until after the election. If Kim is not performing then cut him loose.


2 posted on 07/10/2018 6:08:32 PM PDT by Brilliant
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

We can either have a nuclear war in Korea, or a nuclear war here.

But Kim chee’s choice is war or not, Trump chooses location.


3 posted on 07/10/2018 6:09:09 PM PDT by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Hooey.

This is just another "denuclearization sabotage" article from the EneMedia.

Trump hasn't lifted the sanctions, and it's putting the hurt on the North Koreans...

4 posted on 07/10/2018 6:09:56 PM PDT by kiryandil (Never pick a fight with an angry beehive)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Yeah—And Hilliary was gonna win in a walk.


5 posted on 07/10/2018 6:11:41 PM PDT by Arm_Bears (Hey, Rocky--Watch me pull a rabbit out of my hat!)
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To: American in Israel

UGM-133 Trident II missile unit cost was $37,320,070 in 2014. That’s about two times what a small field exercise in Korea costs.


6 posted on 07/10/2018 6:14:04 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You cannot invade the mainland US. There'd be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

UGM-133 Trident II missile unit cost was $37,320,070 in 2014.

Does that include the MIRV warheads, or are those an extra. Dealer prep? Floor mats?


7 posted on 07/10/2018 6:35:37 PM PDT by Flick Lives (Suddenly someone'll say, like, plate, or shrimp, or plate o' shrimp out of the blue, no explanation.)
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To: Flick Lives

Fully loaded is my guess, especially at that price point.


8 posted on 07/10/2018 7:01:48 PM PDT by Spacetrucker (George Washington didn't use his freedom of speech to defeat the British - HE SHOT THEM .. WITH GUNS)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

‘The Atlantic’ is a far left organ for privileged liberals.

Every item they put out regarding President Trump will have a headline that insinuates the Trump era is on its deathbed.


9 posted on 07/10/2018 7:06:49 PM PDT by Hostage (Article V)
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To: Hostage

Even the ones on January 21, 2025?


10 posted on 07/10/2018 7:10:04 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You cannot invade the mainland US. There'd be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Kim rattles his saber in one and holds out his tin cup in the other.

Trump does not play that.


11 posted on 07/10/2018 7:17:15 PM PDT by joshua c (To disrupt the system, we must disrupt our lives. Do nothing and we lose.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Welcome President Mike Pence.

Or any other worthy conservative who the electorate think can carry out the duties as faithfully and clearly as President Trump.

President Trump is well on the way to making the GOP the Party of Trump just as Reagan did in 1983-1984. People forget the GOP establishment viewed Reagan as a hothead who would surely start WWIII and was otherwise a B-Actor dunce. Acting aside, he was a great leader with a superior intellect.

So by January 2025, the Trump Revolution will be in full swing and the candidate nominated to succeed him will be viewed as a worthy successor to carry on the Trump Revolution.


12 posted on 07/10/2018 7:23:40 PM PDT by Hostage (Article V)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“the moment of truth” will be when China has to surrender in the trade war.

North Korea is a proxy.


13 posted on 07/10/2018 8:57:42 PM PDT by BeauBo
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To: Hostage

My daughter had a classmate that wound up writing for “The Atlantic.” He is a lefty commie that can’t wipe his own nose yet he pontificates, with flowery language, the social justice hack propaganda we have seen too often from the rag that employs his sorry ass.

Question: Why are Jews so sucked into the commie propaganda????
The boy is a Jew.


14 posted on 07/10/2018 9:50:41 PM PDT by BatGuano (You don't think I'd go into combat with loose change in my pocket, do ya?)
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To: BatGuano

There are many honorable Jews that wouldn’t hesitate a second to defend our rights and our country.

Liberals come in all ethnicities.

Liberal Jews cluster. Birds of a feather.

Homosexuals cluster.

Pedophiles cluster.

Ethnic groups cluster.

The Atlantic is a cluster of liberals.
Jews stress education, writing, opining.
Educated liberal Jews find their cluster.
They gravitate to the liberal cluster which is The Atlantic as well as so many other liberal media outlets.

It’s a fairly predictable pattern.

But know that educated conservative Jews cluster to conservative media clusters.

Then there are hard to pin down classic liberals like Alan Dershowitz who is more a pragmatist which confuses both liberals and conservatives.

I like pragmatism. I like Trump.


15 posted on 07/10/2018 10:10:32 PM PDT by Hostage (Article V)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

If there’s one thing I know about the NK situation, it’s that the Atlantic magazine has no clue what’s really going on. They just have an opinion, and it stinks.


16 posted on 07/10/2018 11:34:58 PM PDT by JustaTech (A mind is a terrible thing)
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To: Brilliant
Say what? Go for the whole banana in a very short time or toss it all away??????

Seems like a "I want it all. And I want it now. Or forget the whole damn ball of wax." type attitude which makes no sense with what is at stake.

17 posted on 07/11/2018 3:22:32 AM PDT by trebb (Too many "Conservatives" who think their opinions outweigh reality these days...)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The latest on NK: https://twitter.com/search?f=tweets&vertical=news&q=north%20korea


18 posted on 07/11/2018 3:50:54 AM PDT by AdmSmith (GCTGATATGTCTATGATTACTCAT)
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To: BeauBo
Nothing happens in NK without China's tacit approval.
19 posted on 07/11/2018 5:59:55 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (Baseball players, gangsters and musicians are remembered. But journalists are forgotten.)
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To: JustaTech
Agreed about The Atlantic, in general, as they are governed by their default position which is nothing but anti-Trump/ and anything pro-Obama/Clintonisa.

However Trump supporters should also be concerned about the spread of negative, sincere and educated criticism against Trump/Pompeo/Sung Kim/State Dept. on North Korea/post-Singapore here in Asia within the generally conservative press in Korea and Japan which has until this point been supporting of Trump in a number of areas. They are not wedded to an anti-Trump position, and being close observers of North Korea for 40 years up close and not just the cursory, superficial drive by US press view which does not do its homework, files a few stories and runs on to the next thing in a superficial mode, they are on the other hand quite concerned about how things are developing with DPRK at evil China's behest and orchestration.

These conservative anti-communist newspapers, writers, editors, opinion leaders, government officials here are not "never Trump", so that makes the situation quite worrisome--and people should follow this a bit more closely.

20 posted on 07/11/2018 5:08:01 PM PDT by AmericanInTokyo
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