[PeterPrinciple]

A/Ts still have a pump, nicht whar?

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They also have direct drive in higher gears.

Manual transmissions in cities are VERY inefficient with a lot of wear and tear on the clutch.

You do know there is “parasitic” fluid in the manual trans slowing things down also, don’t you.

Everything has it’s pros and cons...………….

[Paladin2]

I’ve never worn out a clutch’s friction material.

Stop/Start is a Yuge benefit in the city.

In the 80’s the Japanese had stop/start m/t vehicles.

[meyer]

My F-150 has a 10 speed automatic. The torque converter can lock I. Just about every forward gear. Third gear up for certain - I haven’t paid attention close enough to see if it does so in first or second.