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To: grania

>>>That being said, I’m all for real conservation. Not windmills and solar panels, but using less and having better public transportation<<<

I’m all in for anything that conserves Energy, as long as I’m not paying for my Neighbor making the decision to buy things that do it like Solar Power and Windmills.

Using less is an individual decision which is usually based on affordability. Kind of like Clinton’s “fair Share” mantra. My opinion of what paying your Fair Share in Taxes differs with what a Democrat Socialist thinks.

Public Transportation works in a Civil Society. Depending on where you live, today’s Society is not that Civil.

Leftists love Public Transportation. It helps them control the actions of the Populace and it is seldom self supporting. In other words, those of us that never use it pay for those who do. None of those people are paying for my Cars, Insurance, Gasoline and Maintenance are they?


33 posted on 08/20/2018 10:59:38 AM PDT by Kickass Conservative (The way Liberals carry on about Deportation, you would think "Mexico" was Spanish for "Auschwitz".)
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To: Kickass Conservative
"Leftists love Public Transportation. It helps them control the actions of the Populace and it is seldom self supporting."

Something to reinforce your argument. I did a study, some years back, about the rise and fall of passenger rail in the United States. I was bemused to discover that passenger rail has always operated at a loss for private railroads.

It seems that people are a problem cargo, with their insistence on heat, softer springs for ride, special smoother roadbeds, air to breathe, nonsense like cushions, water, food and toilets. Passenger rail has always been a loss leader.

While the US Postal Service relied on trains to sort, move and distribute mail, passenger rail was sustainable, since people were going to the same places the mail was. The fees the railroads charged the government to move the mail more than covered the costs for passenger cars.

When mail started to be moved by trucks, to regional distribution centers, using Eisenhower's Autobahn/Interstate system, passenger rail all but died.

This antique is being propped up by Amtrak and dimwitted Dems, who still are obsessed by the population control inherent in government control of transportation.

36 posted on 08/20/2018 11:45:21 AM PDT by jonascord (First rule of the Dunning-Kruger Club is that you do not know you are in the Dunning-Kruger club.)
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