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1 posted on 08/21/2018 9:13:11 AM PDT by janetjanet998
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Doesn't look good for Manafort?

17 are GUILTY's?

2 posted on 08/21/2018 9:14:49 AM PDT by KavMan
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To: janetjanet998

Bump


3 posted on 08/21/2018 9:15:20 AM PDT by rdl6989
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I’m guessing they want to go home and remain deadlocked on the one count.


9 posted on 08/21/2018 9:17:53 AM PDT by Moonman62 (Give a man a fish and he'll be a Democrat. Teach a man to fish and he'll be a responsible citizen.)
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Can’t really add anything into this other than they are having trouble
agreeing on 1 charge.
Who knows about the other 17.


10 posted on 08/21/2018 9:19:15 AM PDT by tennmountainman ("Trust Sessions" Yeah Right!)
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Infested with Trump haters or just one ,LOL


14 posted on 08/21/2018 9:20:29 AM PDT by butlerweave
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Hopefully, they have found him not guilty on 17 of the 18 counts.


15 posted on 08/21/2018 9:21:58 AM PDT by nikos1121 (Trump w/ Cabinet to the press:"You're free to stay or to go, as I believe in a free press." lol)
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My guess:

17 not-guilties
1 squeeker as a face-saving gesture


16 posted on 08/21/2018 9:22:18 AM PDT by gaijin
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To: janetjanet998

The Ostrich Jacket has them stumped ?


19 posted on 08/21/2018 9:24:04 AM PDT by butlerweave
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Properly interpreting the NYT: Hung jury on all counts.


21 posted on 08/21/2018 9:26:44 AM PDT by Revolutionary ("Praise the Lord and Pass the Ammunition!")
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To: janetjanet998

“If we cannot reach a consensus on a single count, how should we fill out the verdict sheet?”


That wording tells me that they are hung on every single count.

If you and your wife are given 18 colors to choose from to paint a room, and you can’t agree on a single color, it means you can’t agree on any color you were given.

But they may have just worded it badly.


22 posted on 08/21/2018 9:26:58 AM PDT by cuban leaf (The US will not survive the obama presidency. The world may not either.)
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I hope I’m wrong, I think 17 are guilty and one is hung.


23 posted on 08/21/2018 9:28:36 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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Yesterday the jury asked the judge if they could deliberate for a little while longer. This explains why. They have decided on 17 counts.


27 posted on 08/21/2018 9:38:41 AM PDT by map
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The way I read this, they can’t agree on any of the 18 charges. “We can’t Agee on a ‘single’ damn thing”, in other words.


28 posted on 08/21/2018 9:38:42 AM PDT by Mozzafiato
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If the verdict was guilty on all counts except for 1, then they could easily figure out that voting not guilty, or hung on that one count would be good enough.

The opposite is more likely. They likely agree he’s not guilty on 17 counts and a few of them think he’s actually guilty on 1 count, then that’s the count that will keep them deliberating.


34 posted on 08/21/2018 9:46:06 AM PDT by jerod (Nazi's were essentially Socialist in Hugo Boss uniforms... Get over it!)
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Interesting news. I won’t speculate on the trouble the jury is trying to express, but it would help if they used the language that the Judge gave them in the instructions. The verdicts must be unanimous - not in a consensus. Consensus is merely a general agreement; unanimity requires all to agree.

Most judges I’ve got experience with would send back the answer to keep deliberating, and refer to the instructions for their answer.

Gwjack


35 posted on 08/21/2018 9:46:37 AM PDT by gwjack (May God give America His richest blessings.)
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That can be read several ways. One of whuch is: “We can’t agree on any single count.” I say they return all 18 counts as not guilty.


39 posted on 08/21/2018 9:49:31 AM PDT by SERKIT ("Blazing Saddles" explains it all.......)
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another misleading headline fromt he NY Slimes... "ALEXANDRIA, Va. — The jury in the financial fraud trial of Paul Manafort asked the judge on Tuesday for instructions on how to fill out the verdict sheet if jurors are having trouble reaching consensus on a single one of the 18 counts." "It was not immediately clear if the jurors’ question suggested that they had reached a verdict on 17 of the 18 counts of bank and tax fraud brought against Mr. Manafort, a former campaign chairman for President Trump." for all we know they could be having trouble reaching a verdict on five of the counts and want clarification on how to handle each count singularly...
40 posted on 08/21/2018 9:50:50 AM PDT by God luvs America (63.5 million pay no income tax and vote for DemoKrats...)
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Robert Mueller and his band of Democrat low life “Democrat” assistants is supposed to be the best in the business. To have a jury possibly “hung up” on a case that was supposed to be a 1-2-3 guilty case is the joke of the week.

When I think of what Mueller and company have wasted taxpayer money on their doomed mission is an unforgivable sin. Even if Manafort does get convicted...Trump will pardon him, and rightfully so!!!

Mueller & Company should all be jailed for fraud of the American taxpayers!! this is turning out to be a three ring circus and a mighty bad one at that!!!


42 posted on 08/21/2018 9:51:00 AM PDT by JLAGRAYFOX (Defeat both the Republican (e) & Democrat (e) political parties....Forever!!!)
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At MINIMUM that means some people are wanting to vote guilty, on at least one of the charges.

I am hoping the judge sentences him to time served and a $50 fine, if that is the case.


46 posted on 08/21/2018 10:09:40 AM PDT by Mr. K (No consequence of repealing Obamacare is worse than Obamacare itself.)
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“If we cannot reach a consensus on a single count...”

Let me paraphrase this according to my understanding of what was meant:

“If we can’t agree on even one of the 18 counts...”

Jury divided on all 18 counts.


53 posted on 08/21/2018 11:24:51 AM PDT by Texan Tory (Laissez rouler les bons temps!)
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