17 are GUILTY's?
Bump
I’m guessing they want to go home and remain deadlocked on the one count.
Can’t really add anything into this other than they are having trouble
agreeing on 1 charge.
Who knows about the other 17.
Infested with Trump haters or just one ,LOL
Hopefully, they have found him not guilty on 17 of the 18 counts.
My guess:
17 not-guilties
1 squeeker as a face-saving gesture
The Ostrich Jacket has them stumped ?
Properly interpreting the NYT: Hung jury on all counts.
If we cannot reach a consensus on a single count, how should we fill out the verdict sheet?
If you and your wife are given 18 colors to choose from to paint a room, and you can’t agree on a single color, it means you can’t agree on any color you were given.
But they may have just worded it badly.
I hope I’m wrong, I think 17 are guilty and one is hung.
Yesterday the jury asked the judge if they could deliberate for a little while longer. This explains why. They have decided on 17 counts.
The way I read this, they can’t agree on any of the 18 charges. “We can’t Agee on a ‘single’ damn thing”, in other words.
If the verdict was guilty on all counts except for 1, then they could easily figure out that voting not guilty, or hung on that one count would be good enough.
The opposite is more likely. They likely agree he’s not guilty on 17 counts and a few of them think he’s actually guilty on 1 count, then that’s the count that will keep them deliberating.
Interesting news. I won’t speculate on the trouble the jury is trying to express, but it would help if they used the language that the Judge gave them in the instructions. The verdicts must be unanimous - not in a consensus. Consensus is merely a general agreement; unanimity requires all to agree.
Most judges I’ve got experience with would send back the answer to keep deliberating, and refer to the instructions for their answer.
Gwjack
That can be read several ways. One of whuch is: “We can’t agree on any single count.” I say they return all 18 counts as not guilty.
Robert Mueller and his band of Democrat low life “Democrat” assistants is supposed to be the best in the business. To have a jury possibly “hung up” on a case that was supposed to be a 1-2-3 guilty case is the joke of the week.
When I think of what Mueller and company have wasted taxpayer money on their doomed mission is an unforgivable sin. Even if Manafort does get convicted...Trump will pardon him, and rightfully so!!!
Mueller & Company should all be jailed for fraud of the American taxpayers!! this is turning out to be a three ring circus and a mighty bad one at that!!!
At MINIMUM that means some people are wanting to vote guilty, on at least one of the charges.
I am hoping the judge sentences him to time served and a $50 fine, if that is the case.
“If we cannot reach a consensus on a single count...”
Let me paraphrase this according to my understanding of what was meant:
“If we can’t agree on even one of the 18 counts...”
Jury divided on all 18 counts.