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To: John S Mosby

The old soviet state used islamofascists and islamist organizations to forward the Communist International’s agenda. Lenin wrote the “islamics” have the military organization to aid the expansion of the soviet state- and used them effectively in... the Ukraine against the “rich” kulak peasants (see: the Holodomor).
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I read Robert Conquest’s related books: “The Great Terror: A Reassessment”, and “The Harvest of Sorrow”.

I did not notice any “islamic” connection or application. Did I miss this; I consider it quite important. Can you elaborate a little?


6 posted on 08/21/2018 12:19:54 PM PDT by Scrambler Bob (You know that I am full of /S)
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To: Scrambler Bob

Useful idiots


9 posted on 08/21/2018 12:54:12 PM PDT by 100American (Knowledge is knowing how, Wisdom is knowing when)
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To: Scrambler Bob

Have always been fascinated that Conquest started out as a Communist at Oxford (open member of CP of Great Britain), and a Stalinist.

Yes, in Conquest’s work (I believe this is in “Harvest of Sorrow”, not certain though) and others (who got this from former Soviet archives)— he uncovered letters from Lenin to the commissars in charge of the Ukraine and into what was the Muslim East. The early letters to consolidate the Ukraine Soviet and force large collective farms He directed the commissars and NKVD operatives to use the Islamic mullahs where these were the “kulaks” of that religion— to get their people on the side of the Soviet, to cooperate promising aid to the mullahs. And then, having done that the instruction was to remove their people from their farms either to Gulags or remove their means of farming and seed stock— starvation in place (and concurrently to kill the mullahs). These are in one of Conquest’s works (am sorry I cannot quote the title- it was a surprise to read about it, and the deviousness (above and beyond how they handled the Orthodox Church and other Christians. Ths include the letters from Lenin to the International on the usefulness of the islamic community to spread communism (citing their discipline, aesthetics of denial more formidable than Christians, etc).

In the Soviet archives history there is this on the resistance of islamic groups to the Soviets. There are references in the archives of getting the islamics to “come over” to use their groups in the conversion to the Soviet State, and then eliminate the leadership of the groups. All of which Stalin continued with Lenin’s beliefs on the topic of islamic religion and the expansion of the Soviets, and in the international movement: http://soviethistory.msu.edu/1921-2/the-muslim-east/the-muslim-east-texts/appeal-to-the-moslems-of-russia-and-the-east/

After Stalin died it opened up the use of islam in Comintern goals internationally politically. Continuing Lenin’s beliefs that islam was a good fit with Communism.

Here’s another interesting post..from anti-communist Indian publishing:

https://swarajyamag.com/politics/eight-things-about-lenin-that-left-does-not-want-you-to-know


14 posted on 08/21/2018 6:04:22 PM PDT by John S Mosby (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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