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Ocasio-Cortez to Trump on PR deaths: 'my grandfather died in the aftermath of the storm. Uncounted'
CNN ^ | 9-14-18 | Sophie Tatum

Posted on 09/14/2018 11:33:22 AM PDT by SJackson

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To: SJackson

He’s just another victim in one of the gulags of Socialism.


81 posted on 09/14/2018 12:44:07 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi - Monthly Donors Rock!!!)
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To: VaeVictis

IN september, after the storm, she said her grandfather was in a nursing home. So not during the storm.

It is possible he died in a nursing home that did not have power and did not take care of him.

But if that is the case, I still don’t understand why, given that she has considerable political clout, and apparently a good supply of money, she didn’t pull her grandfather out of a nursing home that was killing him, and bring him to the United states, where he could have lived FOR FREE for a full year (we gave all refugees from PR 1 year of free housing and meal allowances, apparently).

My guess is he was dying in the nursing home, and he died in the nursing home, and he probably would have anyway — although nobody should doubt that the aftermath of hte storm, with power outages, lack of sewage treatment, and the medical services being decimated by people who left, DID cause the deaths of hundreds, if not thousands, of people in that country.


82 posted on 09/14/2018 12:51:47 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: M Kehoe

She’s certifiable

And The Gift to political us

Keep it up, Dumb***


83 posted on 09/14/2018 12:52:04 PM PDT by A_Former_Democrat ("Moderates/Independents/Non-voters" Are DIMS REALLY who you'd want BACK in POWER?)
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To: CharlesWayneCT

Aside from CNN, who lies wholesale, I’m not sure the rest of the jackals will run with this.


84 posted on 09/14/2018 12:53:20 PM PDT by Luke21 (The Hill sucks.)
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To: CharlesWayneCT
although nobody should doubt that the aftermath of hte storm, with power outages, lack of sewage treatment, and the medical services being decimated by people who left, DID cause the deaths of hundreds, if not thousands, of people in that country.

But that is a major caveat to attribution to death by hurricane. Much could have been prevented by better infrastructure in the first place.

85 posted on 09/14/2018 12:54:08 PM PDT by 1Old Pro
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To: MileHi; SJackson

Actually, that is one of the big plans, I think Musk was pushing it, and some other tech billionares. Build small residential-sized solar facilities to hook into the grid and provide local pwwer.

The problem is, the PR power is a publicly owned utility, and it is broke, but if you build anything, it is hard to figure out how you would keep it for your own, or how you would count on a grid run by a bankrupt corrupt public entity.


86 posted on 09/14/2018 12:54:08 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda

He raised billions in private donations. Then the house voted a $37 billion dollar aid package.


87 posted on 09/14/2018 12:54:49 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: Buckeye McFrog

“Translation: He died sometime AFTER the storm. Could have been hit by a Good Humor truck for all we know.”

Or old age.


88 posted on 09/14/2018 12:55:51 PM PDT by ScottfromNJ
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda

That $37 billion was in November, and we voted another 16 billion in February.

The problem is, the territory was broke when this started, they are more broke now, and we are giving them money for Medicaid, for general government operations, for everything.

They are like a 3rd world country. Personally, I’d like to see us grant them independence. We should never have been in the colonization business, it just causes trouble, no sane country would accept Puerto Rico as a state.


89 posted on 09/14/2018 12:57:30 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: CharlesWayneCT
I’d like to see us grant them independence. We should never have been in the colonization business

Yep, we have enough welfare recipients in our country.

90 posted on 09/14/2018 12:59:05 PM PDT by 1Old Pro
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To: SJackson

Died from what?

Maybe he was uncounted because he died from nothing storm related.

And I believe Trump. He has access to intel she does not.


91 posted on 09/14/2018 12:59:26 PM PDT by proud American in Canada
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To: KarlInOhio

That’s the problem. the CDC has a methodology to track disaster-related deaths. THe claim is that the medical profession in PR is poorly trained, and has NOT been filling out death certificates properly, so they don’t trust the numbers.

That’s why the PR government commisioned the study, to see if there was another way to guess how many of those deaths were related to the hurricane.

The problem is, some uptick in deaths do not fit the definition the CDC has, so while you could say the CDC undercounts, or say the study overcounts, the real problem is you can’t compare them.

So we ahve this bizarre situation where, under current proclamation, the PR hurricane is now the 3rd most devastating one in history, even though most people think that, using the criteria of this study, Katrina would easily double it. Although I can’t find that quote now, so maybe I imagined it.


92 posted on 09/14/2018 1:00:16 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: DuncanWaring

Our cleaning lady’s uncle’s neighbor died last week in PR.
Blame has to be placed on the President.

We had four hurricanes in the 2004 season here in Florida,
Charlie, Frances, Ivan, and Jeanne.

In the year 2005 170,300 people died. Using the GWU “model,”
almost all could be as a result of the hurricanes. Three out of 10 died of heart problems and one of four died from cancer but a large portion of those heart and cancer victims were hurricane victims too!

John McCain is dead, for sure.


93 posted on 09/14/2018 1:05:42 PM PDT by BatGuano (You don't think I'd go into combat with loose change in my pocket do ya?)
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To: CharlesWayneCT
So we ahve this bizarre situation where, under current proclamation, the PR hurricane is now the 3rd most devastating one in history, even though most people think that, using the criteria of this study, Katrina would easily double it. Although I can’t find that quote now, so maybe I imagined it.

Most death totals for earlier storms only included direct deaths.

Probably with so many people on meds or in hospitals and nursing homes nowadays the potential for indirect deaths is greater - especially in a place where infrastructure isn't great to begin with - but direct comparisons of death totals between this storm and earlier ones can be deceptive.

94 posted on 09/14/2018 1:07:43 PM PDT by x
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

LOL!

My parents died in the aftermath of the San Francisco Quake, which occurred iin the early 20th century, I believe.

Neither had been born yet, and both were born in Chicago, but I have no doubt that the San Andreas fault line played a significant role in their passing. /s


95 posted on 09/14/2018 1:07:50 PM PDT by proud American in Canada
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To: proud American in Canada

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You’ve cracked their code!
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96 posted on 09/14/2018 1:08:56 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: SJackson

CNN—”false claim” by the president. Now that’s Objective reporting! /s


97 posted on 09/14/2018 1:10:14 PM PDT by proud American in Canada
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To: Political Junkie Too; ProtectOurFreedom

There were many births that happened 9 months after the blackout. What else can you do in the dark??


98 posted on 09/14/2018 1:12:27 PM PDT by BatGuano (You don't think I'd go into combat with loose change in my pocket do ya?)
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To: editor-surveyor

LOL! Thanks! ;)

Have a great weekend, FRiend!

Julie


99 posted on 09/14/2018 1:18:01 PM PDT by proud American in Canada
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To: rdl6989
INVEST in the Marshall Plan for Puerto Rico

Somebody's been studying . . .
100 posted on 09/14/2018 1:19:00 PM PDT by RushingWater
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