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Father and Son, Both Armed, Shoot and Kill Neighbor Over Trash Dispute
The Truth About Guns ^ | 09/21/18

Posted on 09/21/2018 1:45:49 PM PDT by Simon Green

In this extremely disturbing video out of Abilene, Texas, a heated dispute over the disposal of a mattress leads to gunfire. The shooters, Johnnie and Michael Miller, have both been charged with the first-degree murder of the third man in the video, Aaron Howard. Howard apparently had a baseball bat (not obvious in the video) but was otherwise unarmed.

The person recording the video is Howard’s fiance, Kara Box. Threats were exchanged on both sides before John Miller fired his handgun. His son then followed up with a shotgun blast.

When District Attorney Jim Hicks saw the footage, he said: “Video evidence like this is always graphic and very difficult to watch. But, it is consistent with the charges.”

Both Miller men are currently out of jail on a $25,000 bond.

“You [the Millers] deserve to spend your lives in prison,” said Ms. Box. By the looks of it, there’s a good chance of that.


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1 posted on 09/21/2018 1:45:49 PM PDT by Simon Green
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Howard apparently had a baseball bat (not obvious in the video) but was otherwise unarmed.

The Millers both had weapons, but were otherwise unarmed.

2 posted on 09/21/2018 1:49:29 PM PDT by Cowboy Bob ("Other People's Money" = The life blood of Liberalism)
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Howard apparently had a baseball bat (not obvious in the video), but was otherwise unarmed.

Translation: English to English for folks who need it, like this writer.

He was packing a deadly weapon, but was not prepared to kill with a second instrument.

3 posted on 09/21/2018 1:50:57 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (01/26/18 DJIA 30 stocks $26,616.71 48.794% > open 11/07/16 $215.71 from 50% increase in 1.2183 yrs)
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To: Cowboy Bob

How did they shoot the guy, with their feet?

English is a second language with journalists these days.


4 posted on 09/21/2018 1:51:34 PM PDT by HombreSecreto (The new Oldsmobiles are in early this year)
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To: Simon Green

All this because their new neighbor dumped an old mattress in a community junkpile? Crazy. There is no explanation, other than the old man has a screw loose, and 31 y/o “Junior” was not able to think for himself. This is probably going to be called Capitol Murder.


5 posted on 09/21/2018 1:53:42 PM PDT by lee martell (AT)
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To: DoughtyOne

If your watch the video, the father had a handgun and the son a shotgun. The guy with a bat was threatening to kill both of them. From what I heard, the son had left and came back with the dun, so that is intent right there. He was the one that killed the guy. I don’t know what was the final straw that made him pull the trigger since the camera was just on the kid with the shotgun, but both sides are pretty pathetic. White trash Not OKAY Corral!


6 posted on 09/21/2018 1:55:17 PM PDT by Bommer (Help out 2ndDivisionVet and his wife - https://www.gofundme.com/married-recent-amputees)
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First degree murder charges get a $25,000 bond?

WTF?


7 posted on 09/21/2018 1:56:11 PM PDT by spel_grammer_an_punct_polise (Note to all foreigners: GET OUT and STAY OUT!)
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I saw that vid the other day.... that has stupid all over it and I think I got some on me...

and beware of mantitties....jeez, put a shirt on


8 posted on 09/21/2018 1:56:20 PM PDT by waterhill (I Shall Remain, in spite of __________.)
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Threats were exchanged on both sides before John Miller fired his handgun.

Truly, this "journalist" is a dribbling moron.

Howard was threatening: Miller was warning.

9 posted on 09/21/2018 1:56:44 PM PDT by papertyger
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Yeah, the stupid is strong on both sides in this one, from what I could see.


10 posted on 09/21/2018 1:56:59 PM PDT by Simon Green ("Arm your daughter, sir, and pay no attention to petty bureaucrats.")
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To: waterhill

“”””””and beware of mantitties....jeez, put a shirt on””””””

I believe they are called MOOBS, Jim.


11 posted on 09/21/2018 1:58:54 PM PDT by shelterguy
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There’s a ton more info about all three of these morons in the comments section.


12 posted on 09/21/2018 1:59:28 PM PDT by tuffydoodle (God's character and moral nature are absolute, eternal, and unchanging.)
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I didn’t watch it, but you confirmed my expectation.

One thing people need to keep in mind. It’s okay to defend yourself, but you should be damned sure what you’re killing a guy over is worth it.

A mattress that was out of place?

Some guy could nail that over my front door. I wouldn’t want to kill him over it.


13 posted on 09/21/2018 2:00:50 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (01/26/18 DJIA 30 stocks $26,616.71 48.794% > open 11/07/16 $215.71 from 50% increase in 1.2183 yrs)
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Curly and Larry kill Moe


14 posted on 09/21/2018 2:01:21 PM PDT by waterhill (I Shall Remain, in spite of __________.)
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Yeah, never throw a baseball bat at people with guns.

You won’t care if and when they go to jail.


15 posted on 09/21/2018 2:02:07 PM PDT by SaxxonWoods (Hmmm.)
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The 2 armed goobers should have walked away but the dead man was begging to eat lead.


16 posted on 09/21/2018 2:03:35 PM PDT by Wilderness Conservative (Nature is the ultimate conservative.)
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Saw the video. The deceased looked to be about 6'5" and 270 lbs. of muscle, carrying a baseball bat, and repeatedly said in a rage that he was going to kill both the obese and shirtless (Oh, my eyes?) father and son, who were casually carrying a pistol (at his side) and shotgun (over his shoulder) respectively. Lots of the obvious profanity from both the younger men, but the father very calmly repeatedly told the big guy not to get within three feet of him with that bat or he'd shoot him. All this videoed by the wife of the deceased who kept insisting "You're not going to shoot my husband".

Surprise! Play stupid games, win stupid prizes, in front of the deceased kids and wife, apparently. And all this over a dispute about junked mattresses in a garbage bin.

17 posted on 09/21/2018 2:03:48 PM PDT by katana (We're all part of a long episode of "The Terrific Mr. Trump")
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The victim was a totally aggressive moron who brought it all on himself ; begging them shoot and advancing to close quarters even when repeatedly warned not to advance . The guy and his son did the human race’s gene pool a favor . I hope they are 100% acquitted .


18 posted on 09/21/2018 2:04:04 PM PDT by LeoWindhorse
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http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/3689359/posts

Source was different:
https://www.star-telegram.com/news/local/community/fort-worth/article218728710.html


19 posted on 09/21/2018 2:05:20 PM PDT by deport
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Don’t bring a bat...


20 posted on 09/21/2018 2:06:06 PM PDT by gov_bean_ counter (Ruth Bader Ginsburg doctor is a taxidermist.)
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