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Unrelated to Ford: A Legitimate (And Provable) Reason To Not Support Kavanaugh For SCOTUS
Hotair ^ | 09/29/2018 | Taylor Millard

Posted on 09/29/2018 8:17:58 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

Judge Brett Kavanaugh may or may not end up being the next judge on the U.S. Supreme Court.

The primary reason for most Kavanaugh opponents is based on the allegations from several women claiming to have been sexually assaulted by the judge during his late teens and early 20s. Kavanaugh supporters point out the timing is rather suspect (after all, why didn’t U.S. Senator Dianne Feinstein bring these allegations up back in July) and also raise concerns about the veracity of the statements. It’s doubtful anyone’s mind was really changed following the hearing involving Kavanaugh before the Senate Judiciary on Thursday. Friday’s confirmation vote in the committee is only going to heat up the rhetoric as the full Senate prepares for a vote.

I’ve stayed away from the Kavanaugh debate because it’s akin to taking a dip in a swimming pool filled with radioactive waste. One is most likely to end up poisoned by all the toxicity, although there is a minute chance someone ends up with superpowers. The risk doesn’t outweigh the potential reward.

The problem is there actually is a legitimate and provable reason to not support Kavanaugh’s appointment to the Supreme Court. It’s also one which should give everyone who claims to despise government intervention pause before voicing their support for the nominee.

Kavanaugh’s stance on warrantless spying is extremely troubling – although there may be some signs his opinion has changed.

His original viewpoint on warrantless wiretapping claimed it was consistent with the Fourth Amendment. Kavanaugh expressed this outlook in a concurrence in the 2015 Klayman vs. Obama decision before the DC Circuit (emphasis mine).

The Government’s collection of telephony metadata from a third party such as a telecommunications service provider is not considered a search under the Fourth Amendment, at least under the Supreme Court’s decision in Smith v. Maryland, 442 U.S. 735 (1979). That precedent remains binding on lower courts in our hierarchical system of absolute vertical stare decisis.

Even if the bulk collection of telephony metadata constitutes a search, cf. United States v. Jones, 132 S. Ct. 945, 954-57 (2012) (Sotomayor, J., concurring), the Fourth Amendment does not bar all searches and seizures. It bars only unreasonable searches and seizures. And the Government’s metadata collection program readily qualifies as reasonable under the Supreme Court’s case law. The Fourth Amendment allows governmental searches and seizures without individualized suspicion when the Government demonstrates a sufficient “special need” – that is, a need beyond the normal need for law enforcement – that outweighs the intrusion on individual liberty. Examples include drug testing of students, roadblocks to detect drunk drivers, border checkpoints, and security screening at airports. The Government’s program for bulk collection of telephony metadata serves a critically important special need – preventing terrorist attacks on the United States. See THE 9/11 COMMISSION REPORT (2004).In my view, that critical national security need outweighs the impact on privacy occasioned by this program. The Government’s program does not capture the content of communications, but rather the time and duration of calls, and the numbers called. In short, the Government’s program fits comfortably within the Supreme Court precedents applying the special needs doctrine.

This is obviously troublesome because you’re talking about secret courts which hardly give people the avenue to dispute why their data is being seized. It should also be pointed out we’re talking about a government which is considering a law forcing nonprofits to share information with police and regulators “regarding individuals, entities, organizations, and countries suspected of possible human trafficking or related money laundering activities.” This bill would allow the government to get information on people without a warrant or probable cause. Financial entities or nonprofits who go along with this awful law are exempt from any possible civil action from those who somehow find out their information is exposed.

How does this relate to Kavanaugh, if he ends up being confirmed to the Supreme Court? He’ll obviously be involved in ruling whether this bill is constitutional should it make it through the House and Senate and get a presidential signature.

There is a bit of a silver lining because Kavanaugh’s opinion on privacy appears to have changed. He told the Senate Judiciary Committee earlier this month things had changed since his 2015 concurrence. Kavanaugh specifically cited the Carpenter v. United States ruling where the Supreme Court ruled the government had to get a warrant if it wanted to track someone’s location using their cellphone.

The existing Supreme Court precedent was that your privacy interest was essentially zero. The opinion for SCOTUS by Chief Justice Roberts this past spring in the Carpenter case is a game changer. I’ve talked repeatedly in this hearing about how technology will be one of the huge issues with the Fourth Amendment going forward, and you see Chief Justice Roberts’ majority opinion in Carpenter, that alters, and really is a game changer, from the precedent on which I was writing at that time.

Reason’s Damon Root suggested the statement shows Kavanaugh may have changed his opinion on warrantless searches based on Carpenter. He may have a point, but I’m a little hesitant in accepting Kavanaugh’s almost grand conversion over the 4th Amendment.

The big problem for me is the fact Carpenter was an extremely narrow decision – something Justice Neil Gorsuch pointed out in his dissent where he appeared to say the majority didn’t go far enough. One has to wonder if Kavanaugh’s belief is similar to Roberts’ in issuing extremely narrow rulings which don’t really set a precedent for other cases or if he’ll take a stance similar to Gorsuch.

I’m a skeptical agnostic when it comes to Kavanaugh’s nomination. His 1st Amendment record isn’t as strong as it could be due to his concurrence in the 2014 American Meat Institute v. Department of Agriculture decision. There are still libertarianish legal scholars who champion Kavanaugh’s 1st Amendment record – mostly Popehat’s Ken White and Volokh Conspiracy’s Jonathan H. Adler. Those arguments make sense, and perhaps he deserves a pass on American Meat Institute v. Department of Agriculture.

It’s possible the best way to conclude Kavanaugh’s stance on 4th Amendment – absent any recent decisions on warrantless spying – would be a thorough, recorded interview involving someone like South Carolina Senator Lindsey Graham and Kentucky Senator Rand Paul or Oregon Senator Ron Wyden. That way Kavanaugh would face people on both sides of the issue, who would hopefully pepper him with questions regarding the issue to see if there’s any inconsistencies.

Beyond that, we’re supposed to trust Kavanaugh at his word. Words which are sorely lacking in action.



TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
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1 posted on 09/29/2018 8:17:58 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

There is NO good reason for not supporting him.

All reasonable people who believe in the law and Constitution should support him.


2 posted on 09/29/2018 8:20:41 PM PDT by Innovative
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To: Innovative

Amen!


3 posted on 09/29/2018 8:21:24 PM PDT by fortheDeclaration
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To: SeekAndFind

SeekAndFind, I’m willing to wager his mind has been changed SIGNIFICANTLY since his Confirmation Hearing has started. I’ll bet he’s looking at a lot of things on a more personal basis. He’s seeing up close and personal how nasty people who know how to use the government can be if they don’t like a person’s politics or feel threatened just by their existence. It’ll change a lot of his perspective opinions.


4 posted on 09/29/2018 8:21:33 PM PDT by Notthereyet (Notthereyet)
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To: SeekAndFind

Another BS article, from HotAir.

The hand wringer writes about how skeert he is on Kav’s Warrantless spying stance....but, then goes on to say how Kav’s opinion on this seems to have changed.

HotAir went to the dark side, once MM sold it.

No thanks.


5 posted on 09/29/2018 8:22:48 PM PDT by Jane Long (Praise God, from whom ALL blessings flow.)
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To: Notthereyet

True. Every time he looks at a case from now he will remember the vile things they did to him, his wife and his daughters.


6 posted on 09/29/2018 8:23:49 PM PDT by shelterguy
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To: Notthereyet

I am hoping against hope that what you say is true.

However, I’d like to say this — our discourse has been so coarsened by the Democrats and standard of “advise and consent” so lowered, that an issue like this ( A VERY LEGITIMATE ONE ) was not even brought up during the judicial hearings.

Warrantless spying IS a VERY IMPORTANT issue. It determines whether we are still a free country or a country that goes the way of China and the former Soviet Union.

I myself would have welcomed this kind of questioning.


7 posted on 09/29/2018 8:25:00 PM PDT by SeekAndFind (look at Michigan, it will)
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To: SeekAndFind

BTTT.


8 posted on 09/29/2018 8:25:01 PM PDT by OddLane
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To: Jane Long

Taylor Millard trying to get his name out,No thanks.


9 posted on 09/29/2018 8:25:37 PM PDT by mdittmar
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To: Jane Long

RE: Another BS article, from HotAir.

DISAGREE. This is a very important issue which should have been brought up in the hearings, but was never entioned by anyone at all.


10 posted on 09/29/2018 8:26:03 PM PDT by SeekAndFind (look at Michigan, it will)
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To: Innovative

He may rule wrong on some things, but the guy is a class act who has been brutalized. Rejecting him at this juncture for this reason would be sick.


11 posted on 09/29/2018 8:26:05 PM PDT by alstewartfan ("We circle each other in flight Til together we roll like the ocean In its bed at night" Al Stewart)
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To: mdittmar

RE: Taylor Millard trying to get his name out,No thanks.

Ad Hominem attack. No thanks.


12 posted on 09/29/2018 8:26:34 PM PDT by SeekAndFind (look at Michigan, it will)
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To: Notthereyet

I hope he’s changed his mind about his behavior to protect the Clintons from a murder investigation into the death of Vince Foster. He slandered the one eye witness, surprising him on the stand by accusing him of stopping at Ft. Marcy for a gay romp! He was an innocent man who pulled in to take a pee. He was the only eyewitness who saw the different car with the two hostile men near it, where the Clintons defense people swore was Foster’s car. Because you don’t get driven to your suicide location.

This was why I did not want Kavanaugh. At this point I hope he is seated but a lot of people have been removed from life by the Clinton machine: possibly because the first murder was so easy to get away with? Foster deserved a full investigation.


13 posted on 09/29/2018 8:26:41 PM PDT by Yaelle
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To: Jane Long
I agree.

It's gone to seed once she relinquished control-actually, it began when Robert Spencer was exiled from HA.

That said, Kavanaugh wasn't my first, or second, or third, choice for this seat.

However, this goes beyond replacing Kennedy at this point.

It's a battle to stand up for due process and the Constitution, against the deep state, and not allow people to be demonized based on the fact that their skin is white, or that they happen to have a y chromosome.

We need to stick with Kavanaugh until the bitter end.

14 posted on 09/29/2018 8:27:07 PM PDT by OddLane
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To: SeekAndFind
The privacy horse left the barn already thanks to 9/11.

If HotAir going to oppose Kavanaugh on this, then they might as well oppose all of Trump's SCOTUS choices and everyone in Congress then.

This is a specious issue - we simply have bigger fish to fry right now - and it's being pushed by the Losertarians.

15 posted on 09/29/2018 8:27:19 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (GOAT POTUS TRUMP)
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To: SeekAndFind
This is a very important issue which should have been brought up in the hearings, but was never entioned by anyone at all.

More important than Kavanaugh confirming that military tribunals are Constitutional and allows Trump to take down the Deep State?

16 posted on 09/29/2018 8:28:39 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (GOAT POTUS TRUMP)
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To: SeekAndFind

Good grief! Give me a break!

You can’t have everything!

Congreds and the beauaucracies need to be held to account.

Trump’s credibility is on the line here.


17 posted on 09/29/2018 8:29:28 PM PDT by ZULU (MAGA)
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To: Jane Long

Hot Air is trash. I’ve always thought that if they finally put “allahpundit” out to pasture, I may go back, but reading this putz reaching for a stupid argument to get some clicks in the midst of what we’ve been watching makes me think otherwise.


18 posted on 09/29/2018 8:29:46 PM PDT by MountainWalker
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To: SeekAndFind

What the hell does Ad Hominem mean?


19 posted on 09/29/2018 8:30:05 PM PDT by mdittmar
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To: Innovative

Absolutely.

Trump hating conservatives are mindless.


20 posted on 09/29/2018 8:30:27 PM PDT by ZULU (MAGA)
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