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1 posted on 10/11/2018 7:31:30 AM PDT by Liberty7732
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The only issue is whether citizens can be trusted to choose the best educational route for their own children.

The big government types say that this is not possible. You can't be trusted to know what is best for your children. That is the crux of the problem.

2 posted on 10/11/2018 7:36:18 AM PDT by 17th Miss Regt
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Maybe I missed it, but this proposal should include home schooling as well.

Thirteen large would go a long way at home. And it would afford the usual benefits of home schooling (or unschooling).

The author is correct - government schools are a major reason this country is in the trouble that it is.


3 posted on 10/11/2018 7:41:34 AM PDT by MichaelCorleone (Jesus Christ is not a religion. He's the Truth.)
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Thank you for this.


4 posted on 10/11/2018 7:43:42 AM PDT by frog in a pot (Obama's "Remaking of America" continues apace in the absence of effective political opposition.)
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This would be huge.

The Left would fight it in a big way.


5 posted on 10/11/2018 7:46:53 AM PDT by UnwashedPeasant (Trump is fixing the world's problems just to distract us from Russia.)
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The problem is “School Choice” in itself is another packaging requiring the government to frame or control and thus it will end up requiring something in exchange. If you google “school choice” you can trace it being a program in communist China.
If one includes “homeschool” in this marketing idea (which Cruz did) it will end up regulating “homeschool”.
Charlotte Iserbyte author of Deliberate Dumbing Down longtime ed activist has some interesting warnings about Choice.
Perhaps those who homeschool could simply submit some proof of homeschool and costs spent and get a straight rebate on their property taxes.


6 posted on 10/11/2018 7:57:26 AM PDT by magna carta
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“Socialism stinks Has it occurred to you that you can’t get much more socialist than the way we do grade school and high school in America? The only further step would be to outlaw schools that were not run by the government.”

I have been saying this for almost 30 years, including and especially the colleges! Till this changes we’re doomed, just look at the present crop of brain dead and the parents who have no clue.


7 posted on 10/11/2018 8:08:18 AM PDT by Tac Double Tap (I'd rather die standing than on my knees begging.)
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I think education is up next. Communist takeover requires 3 broad subversions:

1. Media. Largely accomplished, but POTUS is carving them up.

2. Courts. ALMOST accomplished, but just got creamed. Bwaaa haa ha!!!

3. Education. Largely accomplished, but plans for POTUS counterattack in the works.


8 posted on 10/11/2018 8:11:09 AM PDT by Basket_of_Deplorables (Q: Believing Is Seeing!)
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Time to put the kibosh on liberal indoctrination centers...
9 posted on 10/11/2018 8:15:43 AM PDT by GOPJ (You don't hand matches to an arsonist - you don't give power to an angry leftwing mob. PresidenTrump)
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Someone has been reading my dozen years worth of campainging for this idea, all over the Internet and in the reader comment sections on dozens of Wall Street Journal articles.

But they have one thing wrong. The dollar amount of vouchers.

The policy cannot be expressed as a dollar amount that could be applied nationally, as state and local education budgets vary, and with all the complications in federal education funding law, so does what is the federal portion of a local K-12 school district’s budget.

What the policy needs to direct is simply that 100% of the per K-12 student budget - from all sources - in any jurisdiction, be paid to the parents of K-12 students in that jurisdiction in the form of vouchers, vouchers they can turn in to ANY K-12 school of their choice - public, private, secular or religious.

Setting a specific dollar amount only gets such a policy hung up on arguments about the dollar amount. But the basic need and principle is not ANY specific dollar amount, but just that all “public funds” for K-12 students be paid as vouchers.

Yes, different jurisdicitons can, will and ought to be allowed to have different spending levels within their jurisdiciton, as costs have legitimate (as well as illegitimate) reasons to be different than some other jurisdiction (cost of living alone enters into that). What $13,000 gets may be less than needed in some jurisdiction and more than needed in another. Stick to the principle, not the dollar amount.


10 posted on 10/11/2018 8:34:30 AM PDT by Wuli (u)
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Note: offering total school choice wouldn’t cost the taxpayer.

The money for the vouchers has to come from somewhere.

If parents were given total school choice, few would choose the one that promises to promote moral relativism and government control as the solution.

After generations of indoctrination? Not too sure about that.

If publicly-funded education must continue, a total charter school system might be a better idea that would cut costs.

But, really, the best system would be one where all education is sold on the free market (with a few exceptions). Then many more options would be available

Right now, the free market offers everything from private schools that are very expensive, church-run schools that can be less expensive, homeschool co-ops that cost as little as $100/year (or free), and now even hybrid schools that meet 3 days/week.

13 posted on 10/11/2018 9:02:26 AM PDT by Tired of Taxes
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This should be high on the list of priorities for Trump.


14 posted on 10/11/2018 9:03:28 AM PDT by aquila48
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Yes, significant reform needs to happen. I wonder if this is being put off to the second term given it will be unpopular to millions who benefit from this failed system.


15 posted on 10/11/2018 9:06:43 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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Sadly many parents view school, private or public, as little more than a daycare center.

I remember when I was in grades 8-12 I’d leave early in the morning then after school go straight to whatever sports practice I was in at that time of year then finally get home somewhere between 5 and 6 pm.


17 posted on 10/11/2018 11:23:34 AM PDT by Boomer (Cheers to the Triumph of the Trump Admin.)
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