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To: Paal Gulli

Maybe it wasn’t Asians and maybe it wasn’t across the Bering Straits. There are some who think it may have been from the east. There have been some interesting finds in following the path of the Solutreans. I’ve been commissioned 3 times in the last two years to make Solutrean style Laurel Leaf blades for class room examples. As for the points they found in Texas they just look like Hell Gap points that have been found in many states. The Hell Gap is just one of several examples of Paleo style points. If FR stops requiring third party hosting and comes out of the stone age I can show you several examples of Hell Gaps I’ve personally found here on the ranch. Since they’re using a different method of dating on this particular site other than carbon dating not everybody is taking this claim as fact. They used OSL to date the sediment and it’s not widely accepted. Has a higher margin of error than radiocarbon, but can be used in situations where carbon isn’t preserved, and it can date older material.

Here’s some examples of recovered Hell Gaps.

https://www.google.com/search?q=hell+gap+point&tbm=isch&source=iu&ictx=1&fir=YgN0FaIwzeV4wM%253A%252CDJHWGpJW_CW1-M%252C_&usg=AI4_-kQ3QFrWTpYE1Ob-c8vSwF0dBcxz9g&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiH2_uS86PeAhVHVK0KHZolCVcQ9QEwBnoECAYQDg#imgrc=YgN0FaIwzeV4wM:


33 posted on 10/26/2018 3:32:45 AM PDT by Dusty Road (")
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To: Dusty Road
Here's one I just made about an hour ago.  photo DSCN0449_zpsaxnwuxwm.jpg
36 posted on 10/26/2018 5:52:39 AM PDT by Dusty Road (")
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To: Dusty Road

Thank you for that, and for being truly interested in more than a Texas hamburger.

Apparently Clovis were also found at the Hell Gap site? I would be curious which was stratified deeper if you happen to know?

I can see a possible transition from the Hell Gap points to Clovis or vice versa in some of the Thrall points. The Hell Gap design is interesting because it is no nonsense and appears to be a much sturdier shape than just about every other shape found. Stubby, practical and solid rather than intricate with possible vulnerabilities to being fragile like the Solutrean leaf points.

But there are some strange things going on with all these finds.There have been Western stemmed points found at Paisley Caves dated to before Clovis yet no Clovis. Yet at Hell Gap there has been Western stemmed points found above Clovis indicating a later West to East migration.

Then there is the Solutrean that indicates an East to West migration. And the fact that South American Clovis are older than the North American Clovis indicates a South to North migration. The Santa Rosa Channel Island Finds indicate a Coastal Route by watercraft and the pre-clovis age finds in Brazil indicate a possible connection with Africa across the Atlantic.

To me this all adds up to several migrations from different directions at different time periods. I think to try and limit migrations to just one possibility from only one direction and try to discredit all the other possibilities is holding us back from recognizing the true complex possibilities.

It is ignorant to assume with a closed mind that all early man were hydrophobic and were not smart enough to float. Or that it was impossible to skirt along ice packs like Antarctica and find enough calories to make and survive a trip like that from Australia and New Zealand to South America. We are failing to give early Hominids the credit of being much smarter than we think.

There cannot be a total sum without more than one factor. And we are always trying to limit everything to just one factor. We will never find the true sum if we don’t stop recognizing all the possible factors in the whole equation.


37 posted on 10/26/2018 6:00:33 AM PDT by Openurmind
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