"As production ramps up, and we implement additional cost savings initiatives, we are on track to reduce the cost of the F-35A to $80 million by 2020," said Lockheed F-35 general manager Greg Ulmer earlier this year. "That is equal to or less than legacy aircraft, while providing a major leap in capability."
Who thinks we should be buying F-15s and F-16s and F-18s now?
Really, as good as the F-15c is, and it is an excellent air superiority fighter, who would buy one of them and forgo an F-35A?
Sure we'd like to have a modernized F-22, but that program has not even been proposed.
Yet.
1 posted on
11/23/2018 2:36:09 PM PST by
Mariner
To: Mariner
Two fighter wings and only 36 aircraft capable of taxying? I wonder if a modern fighter wing is what used to termed a fighter squadron. In my (old) days one fighter wing had about 72 aircraft.
2 posted on
11/23/2018 2:58:32 PM PST by
libertylover
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To: Mariner
Thanks for the post.
Going waay back to the Bradley IFV, the M1 Abrams, and even the B1B - they were all talked of as boondoggles and a waste of money.
Once fielded they performed pretty darned good. I think we could look back to the F-35 and say the same in ten, twenty years.
3 posted on
11/23/2018 3:02:32 PM PST by
Psalm 73
("I will now proceed to entangle the entire area".)
To: Mariner
Unit cost of an f-15 is around 30 million per jet but that was 20 years ago. A Quarter the price (Roughly!) to an F-35 without factoring inflation. It was Introduced 1976 over 40 years ago and has been retrofitted since.
Unit cost of an F-16 is approaching 20 million (I’m surprised at how cheap they are, but we export these so maybe that’s because replacement orders are cheap) about 1/5th the price of a F-35. But again, the F-16 is a 40 year old platform with lots of retrofits.
F-22s are about 150 million, as per Wikipedia. That’s a lot of money for a fighter platform.
F-35s are around 90-115 million depending on the service variant. They introduce a new level of options because they are a stealthy platform. So I think its worth the investment if not to augment our current military.
4 posted on
11/23/2018 3:03:38 PM PST by
Bayard
To: Mariner
5 posted on
11/23/2018 3:03:39 PM PST by
\/\/ayne
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To: Mariner
Obama made sure it will never happen. They destroyed the tooling.
7 posted on
11/23/2018 3:08:58 PM PST by
Kozak
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To: Mariner
How long were they then grounded for maintenance?
How many didn’t take part? Only 35 airplanes for two wings?? That’s about half.
9 posted on
11/23/2018 3:13:33 PM PST by
CodeToad
( Hating on Trump is hating on me and America!.)
To: Mariner
Think of this.....we spend $135 billion a year on illegal immigrants.
10 posted on
11/23/2018 3:15:04 PM PST by
blam
To: Mariner
Nice pics, but it says ZIP about their lethality.
Apparently the F-35 can’t dogfight worth a damn, but (supposedly) enemy fighters won’t even be able to get close to ‘em. I have heard that one before. Color me skeptical.
11 posted on
11/23/2018 3:15:51 PM PST by
rbg81
(Truth is stranger than fiction)
To: Mariner
“As production ramps up, and we implement additional cost savings initiatives, we are on track to reduce the cost of the F-35A to $80 million by 2020,” said Lockheed F-35 general manager Greg Ulmer earlier this year. “That is equal to or less than legacy aircraft, while providing a major leap in capability.”
Because , Trump
That the F35 is an outstanding aircraft is not in doubt, the question always was price -performance and if we could afford enough of them to make a difference
At 80 million a ship, the F-35 is a smoking deal
Only Donald Trump could have cut through the Government/LMCO pricing CF and delivered the F35 at an affordable (ie originally projected price point).
This is what happens when prices are negotiated by a negotiator acting in the interests of the country as opposed the interests of politicians demanding bribes or demanding contributions to their campaigns or their foundations
15 posted on
11/23/2018 3:26:43 PM PST by
rdcbn
To: Mariner
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19 posted on
11/23/2018 4:24:07 PM PST by
Chode
( WeÂ’re America, Bitch!)
To: Mariner
1. This A/V should not be sold to any foreign government. It entirely too classified and costly to sell and the A/V could fall into the wrong hands..
20 posted on
11/23/2018 4:38:55 PM PST by
tallyhoe
To: Mariner
“Who thinks we should be buying F-15s and F-16s and F-18s now?”
Anyone with sense.
The Joint Strike Failure is still a piece of crap that doesn’t work, and it’ll never get even close to $80 million. And as a result, USAF will never get close to buying 2500 of them. They’re just too expensive.
26 posted on
11/23/2018 6:11:18 PM PST by
DesScorp
To: Mariner
My Navy son now in flight school just may end up flying one of these puppies....... :-)
27 posted on
11/23/2018 6:13:55 PM PST by
Arlis
To: Mariner
F-22, yes.
I say - and have said - the F-35 is the 21st F-111.
32 posted on
11/23/2018 7:45:17 PM PST by
YogicCowboy
("I am not entirely on anyone's side, because no one is entirely on mine." - J. R. R. Tolkien)
To: Mariner
"...the US military has started to deploy its stealth-enabled F-35 fighter jet."
The U.S. military had them in units a long time ago. Many other countries are using them, too. There are hundreds now, and eventually, there will be thousands.
33 posted on
11/23/2018 8:34:05 PM PST by
familyop
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