Posted on 12/18/2018 11:35:27 AM PST by Liberty7732
And Flynn was fully aware that Kislyak was being tapped and probably also that his conversations would be
He just probably trusted that the US govt would not tap and unmask HIM as a potential enemy agent
When the FBI shows up and starts asking you about your actions a prudent person might conclude that he was under investigation.
Further, Miranda warnings are for people in custody, not officials sitting in the White House sitting for a voluntary interview.
The FBI's behavior was routine and the same as takes place with every law enforcement agency at every level in America.
They may have been more successful than they often are but that's due to a combination of disorganization and arrogance on the part of the Administration and Flynn, not unethical FBI behavior.
I guess you do now. Its the new normal
Thanks Obama!
FYI, we have at least one fascist freeper lawyer here who believes the bikers at Waco “got what they deserved”.
Any military officer that contributes to decisions on US govt policy regarding the affairs of a US ally, a NATO ally, could be accused of being a foreign lobbyist i they accept a dinner invitation or invitation to speak at a conference or contribute as a consultant
FARA was pretty lax and loose
Even real lobbyists like the Podestas did not register all of their clients until AFTER Mueller started charging people
He should have brought an entire platoon of lawyers in battle-rattle.
What was he thinking? How disorganized.
Are you ALWAYS a supercilious gasbag, semimojo?
1. The U.S. government didn't wiretap Flynn. They intercepted his communications through a wiretap on Kislyak.
2. Any legal protections Flynn had against unmasking were null and void because he was carrying on these communications from outside the U.S.
I'm almost 100% certain about #1. I may be wrong about #2 but someone posted an explanation of this from Dan Bongino's podcast last evening.
You expect it when you obeserve law enforcement at all levels in the US.
They already knew the answers to every question they asked.
I'm not a lawyer, but common sense would say that this would be nothing short of retaliation.
Would Flynn even be on the radar for the FARA violation if he had not been entrapped by the FBI? Would Flynn be on the radar if he were not illegally unmasked in the first place?
To me (and hopefully a sympathetic jury), it all is tainted fruit stemming from the Obama administration trying to punish Trump for beating Clinton. Pursuing Flynn for FARA after having his original case tossed out for entrapment would be malicious prosecution of the highest order because the probable cause is tainted by the illegal unmasking and resulting entrapment.
-PJ
Perhaps, but isn't this how prosecutors conduct business all the time -- cutting deals for lesser charges in exchange for leniency on more serious ones?
Would Flynn even be on the radar for the FARA violation if he had not been entrapped by the FBI? Would Flynn be on the radar if he were not illegally unmasked in the first place?
See Post #27. In this particular case, the terms "entrapped" and "illegally unmasked" may not actually apply.
By his own admission he was thinking that he could get away with BSing the FBI like he did Pence.
If that's the case, then it reaffirms my suspicion that Flynn is borderline retarded.
How does the National Security Advisor and former Director of the Defense Intelligence Agency not know that phone and text communications with the Russian ambassador to the U.S. are routinely monitored by U.S. intelligence agencies?
The judge made it pretty plan the next step is to work on a treason charge for Flynn.
Which leads to Trump.
Things are getting more and more interesting.
Chaos? what Chaos?
Let’s play the Devil’s Advocate.
If this came out that Hillary was texting a Russian lobbyist while working for Obama, what would you think?
Flynn was very stupid. You do not contact any foreign national unless it is with approved consent. You do not have a sit down with any LEO unless a lawyer representing your interests is present.
To do otherwise is to expose yourself to a knife in the back.
“here’s the dilemma in this case as I see it:
1. If Flynn were to fight this case, he would most likely win — maybe even win so big that the FBI and Mueller’s team would be cited for prosecutorial misconduct. “
There is no such thing as “most likely win” (meaning, there is no validity to the concept...IMO, of course); because if he were to win, IANAL but I seriously doubt there would be any way in hell for Flynn to seek either damages, actual or punitive, that did not involve a separate 4 year $600K court battle which Flynn cannot mount.
2. If Flynn were to fight this case, Mueller’s team would simply drop the charges for lying (since they can’t present any of the evidence of his lying — from the Kislyak wiretaps — in a court of law).
I don’t think that is true, and in prior posts, you seem to have granted validity to Flynn having lied, unless I misread them. My belief is that Flynn *CAN* and *WOULD* be convicted of lying. It may be a “minor” lie; it may be a “harmless” lie, it may be a raspberry with pecans lie, but he did tell lies.
3. Instead, Flynn would be prosecuted for the more serious Foreign Agents Registration Act (FARA) violations.
I find that sketchy, but again, any of these things is a well-into-6-figures effort, the result of which is not predictable.
Any Freepers have any insight on this? If you’re a lawyer representing a client in Flynn’s position, how would you go about dealing with this dilemma?
Like it or not, fair or not, Flynn probably has the best deal he’s going to get in hand, right now. That’s my opinion.
You don’t expect a crowd that’s the same as back-shooting Taliban Muzzies to be disguised as American fibbie agents...
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