Posted on 12/18/2018 4:39:36 PM PST by a little elbow grease
I was just watching “The Joe Pags Show" on television. I heard something much like this about the Flynn sentencing today (I paraphrase):
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Judge to Flynn: “In all my years on the bench I’ve never accepted a guilty plea from someone who wasn’t guilty. You take three months to go figure this out/think this over." (As I said --- I paraphrase)
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I think this is about exactly what a caller reported was said at that sentencing.
Most of the previous reports I had read said things like this: “The judge was giving all the signs that he was going to sentence Flynn to prison time. Gave him a chance to postpone to maximize his cooperation.”
What I heard on “The Joe Pags Show says something QUITE DIFFERENT.
If true, why is he allowing Mulehead and his crew to railroad him as in the case of Ted Stevens? Why is he putting up with this lawless “special counsel” and his corrupt crew? That is the question.
Tony Podesta also lobbied "illegally" as an "unregistered agent." He was permitted to retroactively fill out the form and pay a fine, not be forced into a criminal guilty plea by having his family threatened.
The deep state will three month Mueller until the 2020 election!
I've seen these reports of Flynn's son being exposed to possible legal trouble, but I haven't seen anything first-hand that lends any credibility to them.
Can anyone post a quote from Flynn or his attorneys about this particular point?
I've long ago given up on Sean Hannity and any of these other TV clowns as reliable sources for anything.
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Right on both counts.
I must admit, most of this confuses me completely.
This was after the judge accused him of treason?
Flynn was accused of being an unregistered foreign lobbying agent for the Turkish government. Mueller, in his zeal to get Trump on anything, made a deal with Flynn that if he cooperated and turned state's evidence on anybody else lobbying, that Mueller would let Flynn cop on a minor charge of lying to federal agents.
Flynn has been singing to Mueller, and Mueller has charged two of Flynn's business associates of also being unregistered agents of Turkey. Mueller also threatened to charge Flynn's son, and that is when Flynn, broke and bankrupt from all of the legal fees, agreed to plead guilty to something he didn't do - lie to federal agents.
When all of this was revealed to the Judge in sealed pleadings from the special council's office yesterday, that is when the Judge went bonkers in court today accusing Flynn of treason.
Flynn isn't squeaky clean, but on the other hand the FBI had no legal reason to be questioning Flynn in the first place, since they already had the transcripts of Flynn's calls to the Russian ambassador, Flynn knew they had the transcripts, and therefore had nothing to gain by lying to the agents.
They lying charge is Flynn's 'reward' for snitching on his associates, and that didn't sit well with Judge Sullivan.
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I'm not sure of the sequence.
I just had to get up after hearing this on television on 'The Joe Pags Show' and write it down here. It's all confusing to this 72 year old criminal actions novice.
ps-- I read that the judge apologized for that.
Thanks.
He did after the recess.
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Mueller’s motion cited “lying to the Media!”
How about Joe Biden and his son getting over $1M from Ukraine in a business in which he had no experience, a couple days after Daddy Joe visited the country?
Broke Owebama told the Media a hundred times that Lobbyists wouldn’t have a seat at the table in his Administration!
Podestas, David Kendall, Brian Pagliano, Bruce Ohr, Nellie Ohr. Sally Yates committed a Felony when she lied to Congress.
How about the money for Obama’s inauguration?
Strzok stayed under oath to Congress that in his entire career he never worked on a case that led to an indictment of a Democrat!
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There must be a court transcript somewhere.
So why did the Judge tell Flynn to go back and continue his cooperation with Mueller? What more could he possibly provide him after 19 interviews? I don't understand any of this. Why make Flynn wait another 90 days?
[Broke Owebama told the Media a hundred times that Lobbyists wouldn’t have a seat at the table in his Administration!]
Democrats don’t understand what you’re saying. Too much fact.
Owebama is the greatest pResident they have ever seen. They say so, quite often. They really, really, really do miss him.
Not exactly, from what I heard.
Sullivan did say that he had never accepted a plea deal from someone who didn't say they were guilty, but just after that Flynn stood up and said that he was, indeed, guilty.
Later, as they were discussing sentencing, Sullivan asked if Flynn would like more time, ostensibly to provide more support to the prosecutors, before sentencing. The idea being that if Flynn helped the prosecutors more the sentence could be further reduced.
Flynn went for it.
“”Can anyone post a quote from Flynn or his attorneys about this particular point? “”
I have yet to see or hear his attorneys say anything and only learned the name of one this week because I took the time to look it up. I have not seen nor heard Flynn himself say anything either. Is he not allowed to talk? I think he should be out talking. We’re all wanting him to get a fair shake and see today that that didn’t happen...and now I doubt that he ever will. The deck truly is stacked against him with all the support of the anti-Trump congress, DOJ, FBI and media. We’ve been HAD!
Mueller’s job is to convict Trump and/or his group of all the things that Podesta, Hillary and company were doing...so that when their turn comes it seems retaliatory.
The Clintons are gas lighting the American people with Mueller’s help.
I wonder if LTG Flynn has been threatened by Muller that Muller will put the general’s son in prison for _____ (insert invented crime in blank) if he withdraw’s his guilty plea? And/or charge Flynn with some other invented crime?
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