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The Immorality of Illegal Immigration
nationalreview.com ^ | 12/31/18 | Victor Davis Hanson

Posted on 01/01/2019 3:56:37 AM PST by a little elbow grease

(snip) -- New House majority leader Nancy Pelosi reportedly spent the holidays at the Fairmont Orchid on Kona, contemplating future climate-change legislation and still adamant in opposing the supposed vanity border wall.

But in a very different real world from the Fairmont Orchid or Pacific Heights, other people each day deal with the results of open borders and sanctuary jurisdictions. The results are often nihilistic and horrific. Here in California’s Central Valley over the holidays we were reminded of the wages of illegal immigration in general — and of California’s sanctuary-city laws in particular, which restrict formal cooperation between local and state law enforcement with federal immigration authorities in matters of deporting illegal aliens under detention.

(snip) -- We should redefine the entire morality of multifaceted illegal immigration.

Immorality is undermining, in Confederate fashion, federal law, and normalizing exemptions that allow felons such as Garcia and Arriaga to wreak havoc on the innocent and defenseless. Too often the architects of open borders and sanctuary jurisdictions are not on the front lines where the vulnerable suffer the all-too-real consequences of distant others, who can rely on their own far greater safety nets when their grand abstractions become all too concrete.

And, finally, we forget that so often the victims of illegal aliens are (in California where one in four residents was not born in the U.S.) legal immigrants like officer Singh, and members of the Hispanic community like the late Mr. Soto. Polls show that support for open borders is not popular and most Americans want an end to illegal immigration and catch and release, as well as stricter enforcement of current federal immigration laws.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: crime; immigration; population; vdh
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1 posted on 01/01/2019 3:56:37 AM PST by a little elbow grease
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To: Pollster1; E. Pluribus Unum; cherry; bgill; Red Badger; Doogle; Lurkinanloomin; Leep; ...
"- "Real Americans" would certainly include all US citizens (except perhaps those who are too busy apologizing for the small and shrinking number of flaws in our past to contribute to improving our future)."

"- "Real Americans" includes those legal immigrants who have started the citizenship process with the intention of becoming US citizens, assimilating, and accepting traditional American values.'

- "Real Americans" would include those of us who support ourselves and contribute more than we consume (or the young who are supported by their own parents, or the old who are receiving Social Security that they paid into).

"I'm sure there are others, but that's a good start. Illegals, MS-13, Barack Hussein and his moral twin Hillary von Pantsuit, those who hate freedom, and those who work against any part of the Bill of Rights do not qualify as real Americans."

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Well said, Pollster1.

All "Real Americans" must quickly get together as a force and help the President with this problem.

2 posted on 01/01/2019 4:14:59 AM PST by a little elbow grease ("The very ink with which most history is written Is merely fluid prejudice.")
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To: a little elbow grease

It’s kinda weird how the democrat party is engaged in a massive criminal conspiracy of human trafficking, voter fraud, conspiracy to violate U.S. immigration law, intimidation, racketeering, election fixing, etc and the news just goes on each day as if it’s all just normal politics as usual.


3 posted on 01/01/2019 4:16:18 AM PST by SpaceBar
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To: a little elbow grease
nihilistic and horrific

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Nihilism gets a bad wrap.
In fact, you're soaking in it.

In The Dark Side: Thoughts on the Futility of Life (1994), Alan Pratt demonstrates that existential nihilism, in one form or another, has been a part of the Western intellectual tradition from the beginning.

https://www.iep.utm.edu/nihilism/#H3

4 posted on 01/01/2019 4:43:47 AM PST by sparklite2 (Don't mind me. I'm just a contrarian.)
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To: SpaceBar

And Trump is the evil Nazi, last chance to get this right he needs us we put him there. We need to crush them where they stand so they can never get up


5 posted on 01/01/2019 4:56:15 AM PST by ronnie raygun (nick dip pod cast)
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To: sparklite2
"Nihilism gets a bad wrap.

In The Dark Side: Thoughts on the Futility of Life (1994), Alan Pratt demonstrates that existential nihilism, in one form or another, has been a part of the Western intellectual tradition from the beginning."

________________

Nihilism --- Not my cup of tea.

Speaking of "meaningless", Friedrich Wilhelm Nietzsche fits that bill.

6 posted on 01/01/2019 4:56:54 AM PST by a little elbow grease ("The very ink with which most history is written Is merely fluid prejudice.")
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To: a little elbow grease

“....other people each day deal with the results of open borders and sanctuary jurisdictions.”...….

Ass hats like Pelosi and her democratic liberal friends could care less what others have to deal with, they are only interested in how much control they can have over others and how much money they can literally “steal”. Bastards need to be burned at the stake.


7 posted on 01/01/2019 5:31:07 AM PST by DaveA37
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To: SpaceBar; GOPJ; Jane Long; MinuteGal; jsanders2001; V K Lee; HarleyLady27; stephenjohnbanker; ...
.... Democrats are engaged in a massive criminal conspiracy, aiding and abetting human trafficking, violating
immigration law, acquiring power with voter fraud, election fixing, vote harvesting, brendasnipesing elections, etc.....

Democrats are a clear and present danger to us all, not an authentic political party,
but an invading force waging war on a peaceful people. So just what is a Democrat?

<><> the party of weaponized political activity,

<><> who hate and denigrate America.

<><> who put killer illegals before innocents like Cpl Singh, Kate Steinle, Mollie Tibbets,

<><> who elevate the lives of savage gangs like MS-13 above the lives of Americans.

<><> who foisted on our Nation a Muslim foreigner who hated America.

<><> who hang on to flawed leaders Bill, Hillary, Nancy.

<><> who believe transsexual cakes are more important than a thriving U.S. economy.

<><> who believe plastic straws are the enemy.

<><> who believe what’s wrong with America can best be solved with more convicts voting.

<><> who “celebrate” abortion for convenience. nnocents like Cpl Singh, Kate Steinle and Mollie Tibbets.

<><> who smile on PP weinsteining K-12 school children into fodder for pedophiles.

<><> who cheer the destruction of American heritage and its monuments.

<><> who deplore Christian values.

<><> who openly support the legalization of sexual perversions.

<><> who openly sow the culture with confusion.

<><> who worship abortion and all of its butchery.

8 posted on 01/01/2019 6:03:49 AM PST by Liz (Our side has 8 trillion bullets; the other side doesn't know which bathroom to use.)
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To: a little elbow grease

I have said repeatedly in many public forums that amnesty is immoral - immoral towards the MILLIONS of LEGAL immigrants.

Amnesty flips the big giant bird at all legal immigrants. It as much as says: You were dumb stupid idiots, neither you nor your children nor your children’s children deserve any applause for your efforts, cause all you had to do was join the masses of illegals and then wait, and eventually all would be forgiven. And even meanwhile, once you had babies here, they became legal citizens and that fact would help prevent you from being deported, over sympathy against “breaking up the family”.


9 posted on 01/01/2019 6:20:08 AM PST by Wuli
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To: SpaceBar
It’s kinda weird how the democrat party is engaged in a massive criminal conspiracy of human trafficking, voter fraud, conspiracy to violate U.S. immigration law, intimidation, racketeering, election fixing, etc and the news just goes on each day as if it’s all just normal politics as usual.

Well said, and the "Enemy of the People" press are a big part of the conspiracy as well.

10 posted on 01/01/2019 6:26:59 AM PST by libertylover (Democrats hated Lincoln too.)
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To: a little elbow grease; Liz; AuntB; greyfoxx39; La Lydia; sickoflibs; stephenjohnbanker; ...

“- “Real Americans” includes those legal immigrants who have started the citizenship process with the intention of becoming US citizens, assimilating, and accepting traditional American values.’
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Kid IMMIGRANTS who have just “started the citizenship process” are not yet Americans of any kind...they may be potential Americans, but they are not Americans...real or illegal...

Its a process...its not automatic...

Yes they completed much of the ‘process’ towards becoming an American citizen while they were still back in their own countries, but they still have a short way to go...

Just as a person is either an IMMIGRANT or they are not, a person is either an American citizen or they are not...

At the start of the process is not the time to hand our blue ribbons...that comes after the ceremony on the actual day...

I know...I did all the process...I was not allowed to vote while I was in the “started” phase or the process, but I was handed several American citizen type items at the end, including invitations to register to vote in that state...

Please don’t call IMMIGRANTS American citizens...they are not...


11 posted on 01/01/2019 6:30:58 AM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: a little elbow grease

Trump should name the wall bill the Singh Wall Bill and lets see the demonrats try to disparage his name.


12 posted on 01/01/2019 6:41:01 AM PST by bgill (CDC site, "We don't know how people are infected with Ebola.")
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To: a little elbow grease

“New House majority leader Nancy Pelosi reportedly spent the holidays at the Fairmont Orchid on Kona, contemplating future climate-change legislation and still adamant in opposing the supposed vanity border wall.”

Typical career politician response: Unless the problems that affect the common folks affect them, no response needed. Need term limits.


13 posted on 01/01/2019 6:45:36 AM PST by antidemoncrat
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To: a little elbow grease

Bookmark


14 posted on 01/01/2019 6:54:33 AM PST by aquila48
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To: Liz

AMEN to the facts.


15 posted on 01/01/2019 7:22:59 AM PST by Vaduz (women and children to be impacIQ of chimpsted the most.)
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To: a little elbow grease

Democrats own the crimes and coasts of illegals to them it’s just more kickback freezer money and votes for them.


16 posted on 01/01/2019 7:41:39 AM PST by Vaduz (women and children to be impacIQ of chimpsted the most.)
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To: Liz

I wish I could say that no Rs were guilty.


17 posted on 01/01/2019 8:24:35 AM PST by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Mozart tells you what it's like to be human. Bach tells you what it's like to be the universe)
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To: bgill
"Trump should name the wall bill the Singh Wall Bill and lets see the demonrats try to disparage his name."

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..... not a bad idea.

18 posted on 01/01/2019 8:26:05 AM PST by a little elbow grease ("The very ink with which most history is written Is merely fluid prejudice.")
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To: sparklite2

The Democrat party encourages the violation of law. A great example for our children.


19 posted on 01/01/2019 8:50:39 AM PST by ActresponsiblyinVA
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To: a little elbow grease

Bush League Republicans did not care that we did not want our country fundamentally transformed into an Hispanic majority bilingual country.
They were determined to make it a happen anyway and the Democrats were only too eager to help them.

We are 30+ years and 30+ million people down the road to becoming North Mexico with little hope of reversing it.

We elected Trump too late to even slow it down.


20 posted on 01/01/2019 9:06:51 AM PST by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizen Means Born Here of Citizen Parents__Know Islam, No Peace - No Islam, Know Peace)
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