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America Needs Virtue before Prosperity: A Response to Tucker Carlson
National Review ^ | 01/08/2019 | Ben Shapiro

Posted on 01/08/2019 8:27:18 AM PST by SeekAndFind

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1 posted on 01/08/2019 8:27:18 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Shapiro and NRO are never-Trumpers and their links should not be allowed on this site.


2 posted on 01/08/2019 8:30:44 AM PST by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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RE: Shapiro and NRO are never-Trumpers and their links should not be allowed on this site.

Shapiro IS NOT ( repeat IS NOT ) a NeverTrumper.

He is a self-proclaimed “Sometime Trumper”... supporting him when he thinks he’s right and criticizing him when he thinks he’s wrong.


3 posted on 01/08/2019 8:35:23 AM PST by SeekAndFind (look at Michigan, it will)
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To: SeekAndFind

Isn’t this the same Ben Shapiro who called Trump immoral for the Muslim ban, even though he’s written a bunch of articles about uprooting and deporting all Palestinians from Israel?

He is a hack who plays with words and virtue without believing or possessing any of what he espouses.


4 posted on 01/08/2019 8:36:32 AM PST by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: Mariner

READ THIS:

https://twitter.com/benshapiro/status/1000099221939343361

“I called myself a Never Trumper, which stopped applying the day of the election. Now, as I’ve said, I’m a Sometimes Trumper.”


5 posted on 01/08/2019 8:36:46 AM PST by SeekAndFind (look at Michigan, it will)
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

WATCH THIS:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rv5_NOOGs_8

Ben Shapiro Explains How Trump Refugee Order Is NOT A Muslim Ban


6 posted on 01/08/2019 8:37:42 AM PST by SeekAndFind (look at Michigan, it will)
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To: SeekAndFind
I'm not really understanding Ben's beef with Tucker here...

Can anyone help a brother out?

7 posted on 01/08/2019 8:38:13 AM PST by Hemingway's Ghost (Spirit of '75)
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To: SeekAndFind

Baloney! Shapiro should be more careful. Not only is his analysis baloney, it’s not kosher baloney. Like William Krystal, he’s making sausage by using adulterated logic. Heaven only knows what’s in their portfolios.


8 posted on 01/08/2019 8:38:36 AM PST by Flaming Conservative ((Pray without ceasing))
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RE: Not only is his analysis baloney

Can you elaborate?


9 posted on 01/08/2019 8:40:16 AM PST by SeekAndFind (look at Michigan, it will)
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To: Hemingway's Ghost

Here is Shapiro’s beef:

Carlson’s claim that material gain isn’t enough to provide happiness doesn’t lead him back to virtue, which would bolster additional freedom. It leads him to the same material solutions that undercut virtue in the first place.


10 posted on 01/08/2019 8:42:07 AM PST by SeekAndFind (look at Michigan, it will)
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To: SeekAndFind

Shapiro is a hypocrite and a mercenary at best. Recall he also promoted the Lewandowski attack, saying we had a duty to believe that stupid whore who hoaxes getting beaten up.

Shapiro never apologized for that and has only come off Never Trumpism a little bit to keep his Audience. You are foolish to not recognize his deception.


11 posted on 01/08/2019 8:43:33 AM PST by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Shapiro is a never Trump magpie being pushed forward now. No thanks


12 posted on 01/08/2019 8:44:45 AM PST by DesertRhino (Dog is man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up. ....)
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To: SeekAndFind

Shapiro is a never Trump magpie being pushed forward now. No thanks


13 posted on 01/08/2019 8:44:46 AM PST by DesertRhino (Dog is man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up. ....)
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

RE: Shapiro never apologized for that and has only come off Never Trumpism a little bit to keep his Audience.

I’ve been listening to his show on the drive time radio. I have NEVER had the impression that he was a NEVER ( as in will NEVER support Trump no matter what he does ) TRUMPER.

Listen to him before jumping into conclusions. For instance, On the issue of the day — THE WALL, Ben Shapiro SUPPORTS Trump.

See here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uh1JM1nkRnY

and here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=04BGTwbZx30

and here:

https://www.facebook.com/officialbenshapiro/videos/walls-work-build-the-wall/359593258174902/


14 posted on 01/08/2019 8:47:16 AM PST by SeekAndFind (look at Michigan, it will)
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To: DesertRhino

READ THIS:

https://twitter.com/benshapiro/status/1000099221939343361

“I called myself a Never Trumper, which stopped applying the day of the election. Now, as I’ve said, I’m a Sometimes Trumper.”


15 posted on 01/08/2019 8:47:44 AM PST by SeekAndFind (look at Michigan, it will)
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“Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become more corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters.” “Sell not virtue to purchase wealth, nor Liberty to purchase power.” “A nation as a society forms a moral person, and every member of it is personally responsible for his society.”

- John Adams


16 posted on 01/08/2019 8:48:30 AM PST by Simon Foxx
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To: SeekAndFind

“Without morals a republic cannot subsist any length of time; they therefore who are decrying the Christian religion…are undermining the solid foundation of morals, the best security for the duration of free governments.”
—Charles Carroll, signer of the Declaration of Independence


17 posted on 01/08/2019 8:50:49 AM PST by elpadre (AfganistaMr Obama said theoal was to "disrupt, dismantle and defeat al-hereQaeda" and its allies.)
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To: SeekAndFind

There were a whole bunch of people who were reserved about Trump in 2016 because of his erratic personal life, who have been happily surprised by his actions as president. Shapiro is one of them.


18 posted on 01/08/2019 8:51:57 AM PST by lurk
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To: SeekAndFind
It leads him to the same material solutions that undercut virtue in the first place.

Right, but what solutions?

Unless Shapiro is suggesting everyone pick up a copy of Seneca's Letters, the way forward is...?

19 posted on 01/08/2019 8:52:18 AM PST by Hemingway's Ghost (Spirit of '75)
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"Market capitalism is a tool, like a staple gun or a toaster. You’d have to be a fool to worship it. Our system was created by human beings for the benefit of human beings. We do not exist to serve markets. Just the opposite. Any economic system that weakens and destroys families is not worth having. A system like that is the enemy of a healthy society."

One of Marx's greatest deceptions was the invention of the term, "capitalism." It made the concepts of free markets, just another, "-ism," a defined system whose merits and faults can be debated in relation to other, "-isms". Mere use of the word, "capitalism," allows Marx to set the terms of the debate. To the contrary, free markets are not an "ism" with rules, predictable patterns, borders, etc defined by anybody but each individual participant in it. Free markets are how civil people interact with one another and conduct their commerce to satisfy their needs and wants. There may be agreed upon rules (i.e., against fraud, breach of contract, etc.) but these do not in and of themselves define a system. Free markets are not an "ism" any more than an ocean or river are a plumbing system.

20 posted on 01/08/2019 8:55:02 AM PST by Joe 6-pack (Qui me amat, amat et canem meum.)
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