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1 posted on 01/09/2019 2:45:40 PM PST by Red Badger
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Hey, placebos are cheap. [/s]

I had a Chinese person tell me that the thing they like most about the US is the cheap food. According to him, Chinese spend most of their income on food. That is why the standard Chinese greeting is: Did you eat?


2 posted on 01/09/2019 2:49:38 PM PST by rbg81 (Truth is stranger than fiction)
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No, “we” do not take it for granted that people have a “right” to health care!


3 posted on 01/09/2019 2:51:28 PM PST by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either satire or opinion. Or both.)
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Healthcare brought to you by:

Sum Ting Wong
and
Yu No Liv


4 posted on 01/09/2019 2:56:24 PM PST by DannyTN
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On the China Tweets I follow *bribery& seems a much more significant factor than this article makes it.

That’s the heart of socialism: bribery.


5 posted on 01/09/2019 3:16:16 PM PST by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat/RINO Party!)
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China does not have much at all in the way of welfare programs for the poor.


6 posted on 01/09/2019 3:18:32 PM PST by Teacher317 (We have now sunk to a depth at which restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men)
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Nowadays we take for granted the idea that people have the right to access health services, regardless of their wealth or social standing. We also demand that the government play some role in keeping people healthy.

No, we'd only believe those things if we were stupid. Oh wait, by "we" do you mean liberals?

7 posted on 01/09/2019 3:23:14 PM PST by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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Americans should be concerned with the increasing dependence on China for medicine.

Concern over China’s territorial, military, and economic aggressiveness has been building over the past decade as the country is increasingly perceived as a threat to the United States, U.S. Asian allies, and the West. In China Rx: Exposing the Risks of America’s Dependence on China for Medicine (Prometheus Books, 2018), authors Rosemary Gibson and Janardan Prasad Singh explore yet another peril: China as the largest global supplier of ingredients for many prescription drugs, over-the-counter products, and vitamins.

In their alarming book, the authors report how China has become the largest supplier of the active ingredient in aspirin and acetaminophen, present in more than 600 over-the-counter and prescription medicines. China is also the dominant global supplier for the essential ingredients to make penicillin and for vitamin C, used in vitamin supplements, cereals, soda, and hamburger buns. It is also the largest exporter of medical devices, with close to 20,000 products for sale.

They argue that because of this, China represents a grave threat to the U.S. and its strategic position in the world. American jobs, businesses, and national security and the general health and welfare of its citizens are compromised as the U.S. increasingly loses control of the supply of critical medicines, drug ingredients, and even medical devices. The loss of manufacturing capability and U.S. dependence on a single source could result in manipulative shortages as critical drugs are withheld for a political or economic quid pro quo. American consumers could become the victims of price manipulations and compromises in product efficacy and quality.

...In 2005, Chinese firms allegedly created an artificial shortage of vitamin C in the U.S. by restricting production and exports. A class action suit, with overwhelming evidence of collusion presented at trial, resulted in an eight-year battle that found Chinese companies guilty of conspiring to fix prices. China was ordered to pay $162 million in damages to U.S. firms. The Chinese government, which has investigated U.S.-based companies for antitrust violations in the sale of drugs in China, appealed the decision under the pretext that the U.S. was interfering with China’s sovereignty and its laws that set minimum export prices and production targets.

The authors also explore the role of U.S. drug companies in China’s pharmaceutical dominance, citing the lack of transparency in drug labeling, which enables drug companies to hide the country of origin of active ingredients. Typically, a domestic pharmaceutical company will source drug components from other countries and manufacture the finished product in the U.S., thereby earning a “Made in America” label and avoiding full disclosure to patients.

In addition, by manufacturing in China, drug companies avoid FDA regulations and inspections; enjoy low prices; and turn a blind eye to potentially contaminated, low-potency, or counterfeit medicines. The FDA has failed to require inspections of drug-making plants in China, and pharmaceutical companies utilizing Chinese plants do so at their discretion. In China, as in many countries outside the U.S., safe drug-production procedures, quality testing, and expiration dating and labeling requirements are ignored. In this way, counterfeit and unapproved drugs can be sent to legitimate manufacturers and used to produce legitimate drugs. Chinese companies have provided false documents and refused to submit to audits. ....

Link: https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2019/01/exposing_the_risks_of_americas_dependence_on_china_for_medicine.html


8 posted on 01/09/2019 3:34:17 PM PST by CharlesMartelsGhost
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My take-away is this: China has become a fascist system, much like Germany, or Italy before WWII. It has been smarter by not putting as much of its developmental dollars into weapons systems and the military, but it is equally failing to deliver basic services.

Much of its problems stem from being a command economy, as well as being a civilization with a long history of corruption. China is not a majority Christian nation.

Every thing I read about Chinese history is that corruption was accepted and rampant.

China needs market reforms. It won't get them peacefully.

9 posted on 01/09/2019 3:37:56 PM PST by marktwain (President Trump and his supporters are the Resistance. His opponents are the Reactionaries.)
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Good grief. A lot of information in this post. Thanks. That photo of people in line for the doctor is frightening. They want to bring that to the US.


10 posted on 01/09/2019 3:53:44 PM PST by plain talk
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Yes, universally bad.


11 posted on 01/09/2019 4:15:40 PM PST by gov_bean_ counter (Ruth Bader Ginsburg doctor is a taxidermist.)
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There are two questions about health care affordability:
  1. What quality of care can the average Joe get today? And,

  2. What quality of care will the average Joe get twenty years from now?
Insurance isn’t care; if there is no hospital bed availability and you have to wait 9 month for a ob/gyn appointment - well, you didn’t get care when you needed it.

And it’s all very well to say that you have 2019 level health care now - if you institute socialism, you will be hard-pressed to even maintain 2019 level care twenty years hence. You will not have 2039 level care in 2039.

It seems like yesterday that MRI’s and CAT scans were experimental. Now, any Tom, Dick, and Harry can get one if he needs it. A doctor practicing 1920 medicine - even 1945 medicine - in the US today would be a quack.


12 posted on 01/09/2019 4:19:32 PM PST by conservatism_IS_compassion
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I am pretty sure the “out of pocket” model works in the U.S. the way they say it does. (Although I wish it did!)


13 posted on 01/09/2019 4:20:38 PM PST by ConjunctionJunction
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Had no idea, wealth of information but is scarry


14 posted on 01/09/2019 5:07:37 PM PST by easternsky
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It’s too damn long. China abandoned the crap that the democrat party wants to foist on us years ago. The result is that their average lifespan doubled. Ask the liberal dipshit kids that you come into contact with if that’s a good deal. You’ll die at 40 but it’ll be “free” and “fair”.


15 posted on 01/09/2019 7:54:44 PM PST by youngidiot (Admiral Mike Rogers is a hero.)
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“Providing quality health care to a rapidly aging society is now a key challenge faced by the ruling Communist Party.”

Ima stop you right there.

That statement isn’t slightly true. Unless “aging society” means “Xi Jinping” they don’t care about the health of anyone. Except Xi Jinping.


17 posted on 01/10/2019 4:47:20 AM PST by Celerity
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Short answer .....No

The evidence is TV programs on netflix originating in China. A common theme is hardship and angst resulting from sickness of a parent. Hard working professional children are suddenly placed in severe financial jeprody.

What happens is a white knight appears and pays the bills to obtain the affections or something else of the bankrupt kid.

If this were not reality, the controlled media would not be able to produce and export the programmin


18 posted on 01/10/2019 5:02:43 AM PST by bert ( (KE. N.P. N.C. +12) Princess Gray Beaver, for President?)
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