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Nancy Pelosi's Democrats seek to impose California-style electoral rigging onto the rest of America
American Thinker ^ | 01/25/2019 | Monica Showalter

Posted on 01/25/2019 7:48:51 AM PST by SeekAndFind

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To: edie1960

Vote harvesting should be illegal. It is cheating.


21 posted on 01/25/2019 8:23:38 AM PST by dforest (Just shut up Obama. Maybe everyone should just shut up!)
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To: Liz

The bill —— forces states to implement mandatory voter registration. If someone is on a government list — such as receiving welfare benefits or rental subsidies — then they would be automatically registered to vote.
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Old saying is you don’t know how far to go until you go too far.

Dems are going to push for everything, try every anti-Trump stunt,and attempt every anti-Deplorable action in their diseased, fevered brains (did I mention Pelosi?)and then only get some of them enacted.

My tagline is still urgent. To fool around, not do anything and see what happens is NOT an answer for the Right. It is now or never.

Once the Dems have new tens of millions of illegals registered and voting Dem all over America, the traditional cemetery vote, voting machines supplied by a Soros owned company that makes “errors” to say the Dem vote was intended,the felons in Florida voting again, and biased election officials on their side in AZ,TX,FL,MI and elsewhere, there won’t be another actual “election” after 2020; just the Venezuela, Russia, North Korea and Iran style coronation.


22 posted on 01/25/2019 8:28:31 AM PST by frank ballenger (End vote fraud,noncitizens & illegals voting & leftist media news censorship or we're finished.)
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To: seawolf101

San Francisco Sh#t Map.
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That’s why the Beats and the unwashed Hippies migrated out of San Francisco.
The place was too dirty for them.


23 posted on 01/25/2019 8:31:48 AM PST by frank ballenger (End vote fraud,noncitizens & illegals voting & leftist media news censorship or we're finished.)
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To: SeekAndFind

By doing this, they let us know what will happen when they get control of the Senate and the POTUS. Just like Obamacare.

I truly hate these bastards......................


24 posted on 01/25/2019 8:35:09 AM PST by Red Badger (We are headed for a Civil War. It won't be nice like the last one....................)
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To: gibsonguy; Starboard; frank ballenger; GOPJ; Jane Long; MinuteGal; jsanders2001; V K Lee; ...
Democrats will control everything starting in 2020 unless we get a handle on their latest frauds and massive threats to the Republic -
including (A) ballot harvesting, (b) absentee voting, (C) motor voting, and, (early voting).


MOST EGREGIOUS Democrat ballot harvesting is rampant vote fraud.
<><> vote harvesters sign up people to vote absentee,
<><> then after the election, harvesters get them to sign their ballots .... whether marked or not.

Ruthless, power-hungry Democrats invade peaceful people residing in:
rest homes, hospitals, homeless shelters, tent cities, labor camps, prisons, jails, high schools, colleges, etc,

The conniving Democrat vote harvester "assists" the voter in marking the ballot.....
more likely the Democrat fills it in, and connives to get the signature.

NOTE ballot harvesting has always been illegal and is banned in many states.

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A key issue is that these (illegal and quasi-legal) activities disenfranchise voters in other states....and effectively negates their votes.

ACTION NEEDED We need a ntl Repub initiative-----perhaps launched by secretaries of state who oversee voting results,
to launch a lawsuit to protect voters against these practices.

25 posted on 01/25/2019 8:52:20 AM PST by Liz ( Our side has 8 trillion bullets; the other side doesn't know which bathroom to use.)
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To: edie1960

YOu would surely think the GOP would be working with all states GOP to get conservative candidates AND to monitor voter fraud. IF the GOP is not working with each and every state, then no wonder we can’t get ahead.


26 posted on 01/25/2019 8:57:33 AM PST by Karoo
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To: Liz
Liz:" NOTE ballot harvesting has always been illegal and is banned in many states."

It's illegal only if you get caught !
Also, the courts must increase their attention and legal penalties to ballot harvesting
and call it what is really is : Conspiacy to Commit Criminal Fraud !

27 posted on 01/25/2019 9:06:47 AM PST by Tilted Irish Kilt
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To: SeekAndFind

Democrats = 1984


28 posted on 01/25/2019 9:14:29 AM PST by Vaduz (women and children to be impacIQ of chimpsted the most.)
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To: Tilted Irish Kilt
What it really is, is a conspiracy to impose a Socialist or Egalitarian dictatorship over the American people. It is totally adverse to the Constitutional intent; totally contrary to the purpose that motivated those who created our State & Federal structures.

Constitutional Overview

29 posted on 01/25/2019 9:17:23 AM PST by Ohioan
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To: SeekAndFind

By hook or by crook, one way or another, the Bolsheviks are not going to let President Trump win re-election. It explains why they are suddenly so Brazen and bold. They know the fix is in


30 posted on 01/25/2019 9:17:57 AM PST by Maranatha7757
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To: SeekAndFind

Ending vote fraud in CA would require a Federal takeover of big city elections departments and the arrest and prosecution of the CA Secretary of State. Everybody would scream bloody murder at the Administration who tried it, including a majority of Republicans.


31 posted on 01/25/2019 9:23:20 AM PST by Mr. Jeeves ([CTRL]-[GALT]-[DELETE])
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To: dforest

Tragically, the radical RATS don’t seem to care about legalities. Taking and holding power is their mantra, by any means necessary.


32 posted on 01/25/2019 9:39:45 AM PST by edie1960
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To: SeekAndFind

bookmark


33 posted on 01/25/2019 10:05:18 AM PST by GOP Poet
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To: Drew68

Republicans work for a living. Democrats organize for a living.

Besides, here in CA many of those Democrats that were Canvassing are actually “Dreamers” who can’t legally Vote in the first place.

That’s right, under Moonbeam’s Vote Harvesting Election Law, non citizens were allowed to gather up the Absentee Ballots and deliver them to Election Boards across the State.


34 posted on 01/25/2019 10:10:37 AM PST by Kickass Conservative (Democracy, two Wolves and one Sheep deciding what's for Dinner.)
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To: Tilted Irish Kilt

California legalized ballot harvesting——AKA——Conspiracy to Commit Criminal Voter Fraud.


35 posted on 01/25/2019 10:19:51 AM PST by Liz ( Our side has 8 trillion bullets; the other side doesn't know which bathroom to use.)
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To: SeekAndFind; All
Regarding hypocritical Democratic concerns for electoral vote rigging and ballot box manipulation, please consider the following from related threads.

Patriots need to support PDJT in working with the states to enforce the 12th Amendment (12A) and Section 2 of the 14th Amendment (14A). Enforcing 12A will put a stop to unconstitutional state winner-take-all laws for electoral votes imo, while enforcing Section 2 of 14A will stop renegade states from allowing noncitizens to vote.

Enforcing 12A will put an end to unconstitutional state winner-take-all electoral votes laws imo.

"Excerpted from the 12th Amendment: "The Electors shall meet in their respective states, and vote by ballot for President and Vice-President, one of whom, at least, shall not be an inhabitant of the same state with themselves; they shall name in their ballots the person voted for as President, and in distinct ballots the person voted for as Vice-President, and they shall make distinct lists of all persons voted for as President, and of all persons voted for as Vice- President, and of the number of votes for each, which lists they shall sign and certify, and transmit sealed to the seat of the government of the United States, directed to the President of the Senate [emphasis added]; …"

Regarding Section 2 of the 14th Amendment, that section specifies a penalty for states that weaken the voting rights of their citizens.

Regarding Section 2, the congressional record shows that post-Civil War federal lawmakers had pointed out not only that only citizens have the right to vote, but when a renegade state lets undocumented Democrats vote (my wording) the state is effectively nullifying the Constitution’s “uniform Rule of Naturalization” clause (1.8.4).

So in addition to patriots supporting PDJT in enforcing 12A, patriots likewise need to support PDJT in working with the states to respect Sec. 2 of the 14th Amendment.

PDJT needs to work with the states to make sure that only people who present valid citizenship / photo ID cards will be allowed to vote in federal elections. Such cards need to be made scannable to facilitate Democratic ballot box officials with “poor” eyesight.

36 posted on 01/25/2019 10:26:52 AM PST by Amendment10
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To: Liz

As usual your post is wise and informative. I didn’t know the details of the term “vote harvesting.”

Repubs must shrug off the phony accusations “voter suppression” and “racism” in asking for one person, one vote, per each citizen of the United States,with a photo ID (an ID like a pharmacy,doctor’s office,rental car place, DMV or even the old video rental places required unequivocally).

Suddenly asking for ID is “racist”? Shrug that off. Or lose your cushy resort vacations and high flying lifestyle in public office, Republican office holders.


37 posted on 01/25/2019 10:36:50 AM PST by frank ballenger (End vote fraud,noncitizens & illegals voting & leftist media news censorship or we're finished.)
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To: SeekAndFind

One party cannot be allowed to reform our election process without equal participation from both major parties.


38 posted on 01/25/2019 11:58:06 AM PST by GSWarrior
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To: Liz

A key issue is that these (illegal and quasi-legal) activities disenfranchise voters in other states....and effectively negates their votes.
ACTION NEEDED We need a ntl Repub initiative-——perhaps launched by secretaries of state who oversee voting results,
to launch a lawsuit to protect voters against these practices.
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In addition, and very importantly, the Pubbies in those districts need to challenge the results-as they were most definitely disenfranchised by illegal voting in their districts.

But the right judicial appointments need to be in place in order to succeed, as local courts will probably be ok with whatever the DEMs want, hence the appeals will need to be honest constitutional judges.


39 posted on 01/25/2019 1:38:20 PM PST by greeneyes
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To: All

Dems also cheat using duplicate ballots, rejected ballots, non-citizens voting, vote harvesting, multiple absentees filled out by one person, votes that surface AFTER polls close, discarded absentee ballots in PO trash.......and so on.


Things to watch for with Michigan Voter Rolls.

In Michigan, the secretary of state is where people go for drivers licenses. The SoS is registering everyone up to vote unless they specifically say they would not like to be signed up. This has led to voter registration cards being set up even if not signed by the potential voter.

In Michigan, the secretary of state is where people go for drivers licenses. The SoS is registering everyone up to vote unless they specifically say they would not like to be signed up. This has led to voter registration cards being set up even if not signed by the potential voter.
For the May ballot, the governor has mandated absentee ballots be mailed to every new registrant even if they have not asked to be registered or to receive an absentee ballot.

Prop 3… Constitution provides for the automatic voter registration of eligible persons when interacting with the state regarding driver’s license or state ID card, unless the person declines.

https://ballotpedia.org/Michigan_Proposal_3,_Voting_Policies_in_State_Constitution_Initiative_(2018)

“Our Governor has authorized the Secretary of State to send absentee ballots to individuals who apply to register to vote without first ensuring proper verification,” Shirkey said. “This unilateral change to how we secure our elections has the potential to invite fraud and security concerns that may last well beyond the circumstances of today.”

The order follows an announcement from Michigan Secretary of State Jocelyn Benson earlier this week directing clerks to mail absentee ballot applications to every registered voter in which a local election will take place May 5.

https://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/local/michigan/2020/03/28/whitmer-clerks-send-all-new-registrants-absentee-ballot-may-5-vote/2932411001/


40 posted on 04/15/2020 3:53:10 PM PDT by Liz (Our side has 8 trillion bullets; the other side doesn't know which bathroom to use.)
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