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Supreme Court Puts Limits on Police Power to Seize Private Property (8-0 w/ Thomas concurring)
NY Times ^ | 09-20-2019 | Adam Liptak

Posted on 02/20/2019 10:16:32 AM PST by NRx

WASHINGTON — Siding with a small time drug offender in Indiana whose $42,000 Land Rover was seized by law enforcement officials, the Supreme Court on Wednesday ruled that the Constitution places limits on civil forfeiture laws that allow states and localities to take and keep private property used to commit crimes.

Civil forfeiture is a popular way to raise revenue, and its use has been the subject of widespread criticism across the political spectrum.

The Supreme Court has ruled that the Eighth Amendment, which bars “excessive fines,” limits the ability of the federal government to seize property. On Wednesday, the court ruled that the clause also applies to the states.

Previously, the Supreme Court had never squarely addressed that question. It had addressed the status of the Excessive Fines Clause, but only in the context of the federal government. The court had, however, previously ruled that most protections under the Bill of Rights apply to the states — or were incorporated against them, in the legal jargon — under the 14th Amendment, one of the post-Civil War amendments.

Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg, writing for eight justices, said the question was an easy one. “The historical and logical case for concluding that the 14th Amendment incorporates the Excessive Fines Clause is overwhelming,” she wrote.

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Government
KEYWORDS: assetforfeiture; braking; civilforfeiture; forfeiture; lawsuit; ruling; scotus; wod
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1 posted on 02/20/2019 10:16:32 AM PST by NRx
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To: NRx

Well, the government will just have to ignore this one. Taking property is one of their favorites.


2 posted on 02/20/2019 10:18:10 AM PST by AppyPappy (How many fingers am I holding up, Winston?)
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To: AppyPappy

If it’s the IRS, no need to even prove the property was used in a crime. They just take it.


3 posted on 02/20/2019 10:20:25 AM PST by Eleutheria5 (If you are not prepared to use force to defend civilization, then be prepared to accept barbarism.)
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To: NRx
Civil forfeiture is a popular way to raise revenue,

Translation:

Robbing citizens gets cops rich and they like it very much.

4 posted on 02/20/2019 10:20:29 AM PST by gaijin
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To: NRx

“Civil forfeiture is a popular way to raise revenue, and its use has been the subject of widespread criticism across the political spectrum.”

Widespread criticism by the same political scum who created it.


5 posted on 02/20/2019 10:20:57 AM PST by Bonemaker (invictus maneo)
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To: NRx

Forfeiture has gotten out of control.
It’s theft.


6 posted on 02/20/2019 10:22:44 AM PST by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizen Means Born Here of Citizen Parents_Know Islam, No Peace-No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: Eleutheria5

And if it’s the EPA no need to take it, just tell the owners what they can and cannot do with it and what improvements they must make on their dime.


7 posted on 02/20/2019 10:23:05 AM PST by DannyTN
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To: NRx
Have to read the decision but This. IS. A BIG CASE!
8 posted on 02/20/2019 10:23:33 AM PST by DCBryan1 (Quit calling them liberals, progs, socialists, or democrats. Call them what they are: COMMUNISTS!!!!)
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To: NRx

El Chapo got to the court


9 posted on 02/20/2019 10:24:04 AM PST by morphing libertarian (Use Comey's Report; Indict Hillary now; build Kate's wall. --- Proud Smelly Walmart Deplorable)
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To: Eleutheria5

That’s usually true of any government entity. It goes back to the days when they put people in jail because they needed road gangs.

When they built the Virginia Creeper railroad, they brought in black chain gangs. We don’t even have black people here in the hills. They buried them along the tracks where they fell dead.


10 posted on 02/20/2019 10:27:09 AM PST by AppyPappy (How many fingers am I holding up, Winston?)
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To: DannyTN

So when they try to use Eminent domain to build a border wall on a transplanted CA Rat’s land on the Tex/Mex border what then?


11 posted on 02/20/2019 10:29:36 AM PST by gibsonguy
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To: NRx

8-0. Who abstained?
...and what did they know about Hillary? /sarc>


12 posted on 02/20/2019 10:29:46 AM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change with out notice.)
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To: NRx; All

Who didn’t vote is more interesting to me.

Did RBG’s staff write the opinion for her, giving the impression she was there? But she actually wasn’t, and therefore didn’t vote?

Or, was she there and one of theater justices absent from the bench?


13 posted on 02/20/2019 10:30:00 AM PST by jacquej ("You cannot have a conservative government with a liberal culture." (Mark Steyn))
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To: DannyTN

Big mud puddle in the drive? Your yard is now a wetland.


14 posted on 02/20/2019 10:30:39 AM PST by Eleutheria5 (If you are not prepared to use force to defend civilization, then be prepared to accept barbarism.)
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To: NRx

Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg, writing for eight justices, said the question was an easy one.

...

So easy that her clerks could write the opinion.


15 posted on 02/20/2019 10:30:41 AM PST by Moonman62 (Facts are racist.)
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To: morphing libertarian
El Chapo got to the court

Yep. What a coincidence not implying that Ted Cruz wanted it used for the wall.

16 posted on 02/20/2019 10:30:50 AM PST by Digger
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To: DCBryan1

Quite so.


17 posted on 02/20/2019 10:31:01 AM PST by TheDon (MAGA!)
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To: morphing libertarian
El Chapo got to the court

Bingo!



18 posted on 02/20/2019 10:32:29 AM PST by itsahoot (Welcome to the New USA where Islam is a religion of peace and Christianity is a mental disorder.)
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To: jacquej

All of the justices voted. The majority opinion was 8-0. Justice Thomas wrote a concurring opinion.


19 posted on 02/20/2019 10:32:39 AM PST by NRx (A man of honor passes his father's civilization to his son without surrendering it to strangers.)
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To: NRx

Does this nullify the Clintonista law where if the cops find you in possession of $10K or more they can claim it’s drug money and they keep it until you can prove otherwise?


20 posted on 02/20/2019 10:33:40 AM PST by fella ("As it was before Noah so shall it be again,")
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