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Colorado governor will sign bill aimed at bypassing Electoral College
The Hill ^ | February 25, 2019

Posted on 02/25/2019 12:23:22 PM PST by SMGFan

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To: SMGFan
All show. Only the lawyers arguing this in the courts will come out ahead.

"The Electoral College is a process, not a place. The founding fathers established it in the Constitution as a compromise between election of the President by a vote in Congress and election of the President by a popular vote of qualified citizens."

The Governor must have skipped civics classes to think he can with the stroke of a pen change the Constitution of the United States of America.

That may be found in Article 2, Section 1, and the 12th Amendment.

21 posted on 02/25/2019 12:38:12 PM PST by ImpBill (Republicrats/Demicans ... A pox on both their houses)
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To: SMGFan
just under 98 shy

Except not a single red or purple state has passed this.

If blue states had enough electoral votes to ramrod this through, they wouldn't even be bothering, they'd already be winning every election anyway.

22 posted on 02/25/2019 12:38:42 PM PST by Trump20162020
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To: Old Teufel Hunden

Time for Supreme court to shut it down. This needs to be set by an amendment?

We can all discuss this at a convention of states.


23 posted on 02/25/2019 12:39:30 PM PST by SMGFan
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To: SMGFan
IMHO this is unconstitutional on two grounds:

a) states do not get to chose who an elector votes for; only how the electors are chosen. My guess is this also makes any "faithless" elector laws unconstitutional. Once an elector is chosen, the elector becomes a Federal official, not a state one, outside the control of the state government.

(b)how is this to be managed? Will they pass a law compelling electors to vote in the Electoral College for the largest national vote recipient? If so, see (a). Or will they choose the delegates after everyone has voted? In which case, can they disenfranchise their own voters? Under the Constitution, the state could have the state legislature pick the electors; but I don't think having an election --and-- picking the electors is kosher.

24 posted on 02/25/2019 12:39:49 PM PST by pierrem15 ("Massacrez-les, car le seigneur connait les siens")
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To: moovova
That would be right up The Hildabeast's alley.

The Electoral College is a federal function.

I reckon they have to go through the whole amendment process to make it stick.

25 posted on 02/25/2019 12:40:11 PM PST by Slyfox (Not my circus, not my monkeys)
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To: jjotto
and requires the approval of Congress.

Where do you get that?

26 posted on 02/25/2019 12:40:50 PM PST by NobleFree ("law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the right of an individual")
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To: SMGFan

Hinging everything on the popular vote became quite popular with liberals once California wrote ballot harvesting into law. Since California is three hours behind due to time zones, the harvesters get a big jump on how many votes they need to “find”.

This is one of the biggest scams in history.


27 posted on 02/25/2019 12:41:06 PM PST by the_Watchman
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To: Lazamataz

Exactly. Then the idiot will be talking about ‘the will of the people ‘ meaning his people.


28 posted on 02/25/2019 12:41:28 PM PST by Track9 (Conservatives like underdogs, progressive like victims.)
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To: SMGFan

OK. I would like to make an amendment to the Constitution that any elected official who has more money at the end of each term than can be factually attributed to either their savings, investments, or their spouses earnings, has to give all of that money to the government. No exceptions. This is my New Deal.


29 posted on 02/25/2019 12:41:42 PM PST by neverevergiveup
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To: SMGFan

Is STILL wouldn’t have changed the 2015 presidential results. But it has made Colorado and the other smaller states that passed this, in effect, California’s and New York’s “B^tches”


30 posted on 02/25/2019 12:41:54 PM PST by RedMonqey ("Those who turn their arms in for plowshares will be doing the plowing for those who didn't.")
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To: organicchemist

There won’t be any need for recounts, the Democrat will always win convincingly.


31 posted on 02/25/2019 12:42:53 PM PST by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizen Means Born Here of Citizen Parents_Know Islam, No Peace-No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: SMGFan
the national popular vote interstate compact

This idiocy is going to last up until the point that a strong third party candidate running from the center-left, say Howard Schultz, results in a Republican winning the popular vote.

"How do we get out of this mess?"

32 posted on 02/25/2019 12:42:57 PM PST by Drew68 (No, as a matter of fact, I didn't read the article.)
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To: DCBryan1
This makes vote fraud in California, Illinois, and New York the deciding factor in the election of the President.

It must not stand.

33 posted on 02/25/2019 12:43:21 PM PST by flamberge (It seemed like a good idea at the time)
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To: ConchKarl
I got my BA in Philosophy from the University of Wallamaloo, and my Juris Doctor from Whattsamatta U, and I'm licensed to practice law in the Great State of Confusion.

Do you have anything useful to say?

34 posted on 02/25/2019 12:44:07 PM PST by NorthMountain (... the right of the peopIe to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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To: NorthMountain

>>How the electors are then to vote, is not specified by the Constitution. While this seems a spectacularly stupid action by the Colorado legislature, I’m not convinced it’s unconstitutional.

Granted I’m not a lawyer, but I would think it undermines Article IV, Clause 4 that “The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a Republican Form of Government” if the electors are not allowed to “represent” the voters of the state.


35 posted on 02/25/2019 12:44:52 PM PST by vikingd00d (chown -R us ~you/base)
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To: SMGFan
Colorado governor will sign bill aimed at bypassing Electoral College

This will be struck down the first time it is tried.

37 posted on 02/25/2019 12:45:29 PM PST by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: DCBryan1
What an arrogant act of betrayal of Colorado citizens. If Colorado has a recall provision, it seems time to invoke it.

Just what is supposed to be the magic in getting the majority of an artificially aggregated vote?

The idiot is probably an advocate of "diversity," but too dense to realize this is an attempt to sabotage any actual diversity among the Federated partners in the Union!

As for universal suffrage? Allow a dissent:

Threat To Liberty

38 posted on 02/25/2019 12:45:40 PM PST by Ohioan
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39 posted on 02/25/2019 12:45:48 PM PST by C210N (You can vote your way into Socialism; but, you have to shoot your way out of it.)
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To: SMGFan

It seems to me that the biggest problem with this idea
is that there is no “official” count of the popular vote.

Whose popular vote count will these states rely on?
CNN? The New York Times? The Associated Press?


40 posted on 02/25/2019 12:45:55 PM PST by Repeal The 17th
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