Skip to comments.Is America Becoming a Four-Party State? (Thomas Friedman)
Posted on 03/01/2019 8:16:34 AM PST by gattaca
In case you havent noticed, long-established political parties across the democratic world are blowing up, with Britains Labour Party just the latest to fracture. Could Americas parties be next?
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The Two Parties are not sustainable.
DJT is in the process of blowing up the political order and for that I’m eternally grateful.
Hmmmm, last *I* checked, my ballot had MORE than 2 and, sometimes, more than 4, party choices.
Maybe what we need is to support the/a party that uphold, defends and enforces the Constitution (which precludes the typical 2-party base).
The GOP has long been dominated by Bush League Republicans, voting for the continuation of the illegal alien inundation in the faces of the majority of their voters.
The most astute observation I've heard in recent years about this subject came from a human resources expert at an industry conference I attended. He said the problem with today's political process in the U.S. is that the two major parties are aligned in a way that made sense 40+ years ago when we were an industrial economy, but don't make sense anymore. Now, you have an upside-down scenario where the Democrats are the war-mongering corporate globalists and the Republicans -- only by default, not by principle -- have become more of a nationalist/populist party.
1. Democrap Party
2. Social Democrap Party
3. Old Dying GOP Party
4. New Republican Party, Donald J. Trump, President
Having lived for some time under a parliamentary system of government with 4-5 major political parties, I can tell you that it promotes highly dysfunctional and ineffective governance and is likely to be disastrous here in the U.S.
Democratic Socialists, Totalitarian Socialists, Bush League Republicans, Make America Great Again Republicans.
Yes. We have the Trumplicans
Democrats (formerly known as repubs)
You’re right in their present form they are not.
But we will always come down to a two parties. They may have different names but in the end there will be two, Our system was purposely designed by the Founding Fathers to minimize “factions (Their term for parties!)”. The minimum is 2 unless you want a one party state. The only way we will have a sustained multi-party system where there are multiple (more then 2!) competing political parties is if we have constitutional changes that move us to a parliamentary system. This would be something I would strongly oppose.
What happens if 2 and 3 hook up? Very little difference between them.
Indiana and every other state contemplating such legislation ended up watering it down to the point that it became nearly meaningless. The Country Club/Corporate war-monger class is drifting over to the Democrat party if they can't staunch the Populist/Trumpian rise.
Well, since I registered as a Whig 4 years ago, I’ve yet to see a single Whig candidate on the ballot.
The Democrats actually are suffering from a split in their party, with the media hyped upstarts dragging the spotlight from the geriatric old guard. It couldn’t happen to a nicer bunch of lying old fools. Democrats are a coalition of divided interests, but the far leftists appear to be taking over.
The Republicans had a bit of a split when the rank and file supported President Trump over the leadership’s favorites. But the split in the Republican party is between the leadership and the base. The base supports President Trump at around 90% which is actually remarkable unity. Many of the 10% who do not support President Trump call themselves “conservatives” but actually would have preferred a Clinton presidency. They can’t really go to the Democrat side at this point because the old guard Democrats are losing control of their party. So the split on the Republican side is a complete myth from the media.
The "Presidential" Republican and Democrat parties were more liberal than the "Congressional" Republican and Democrat parties. So you had Presidential Democrats on the left and Congressional Republicans on the right with the Congressional Democrats and Presidential Republicans contending for the center.
Both kinds of Republicans were more conservative than their Democratic counterparts, but the Congressional Democrats had a large conservative element and the Presidential Republicans were more accepting of liberal ideas than their Congressional counterparts, so the views of Congressional Democrats and Presidential Republicans didn't reflect the more polarized views of others in their parties.
Political scientists wished that all the liberals would be in one party and all the conservatives in the other to break the "Deadlock of Democracy." How did that work out?
Nope. The two parties have put too many mechanisms in place. The one thing they both agree on is keeping it a two party system. No other party will ever gain enough of a foothold to matter.
Those words, Sir or Madam, are controlling.
We presently have two parties; socialists/Dems/totalitarian/anti-Constitutionalists all acting as a single party and then every one else; and the latter group appears to be the minority party. In this regard, see Obama's second term and Hillary's popular vote.
It should be obvious to all as to why the Left and its useful idiots yell to discard the Electoral College. Imagine the likes of Pelosi sitting in the Oval Office.