Posted on 03/04/2019 11:02:19 AM PST by SeekAndFind
As a political matter, efforts to outlaw dual citizenship have gone nowhere. The issue does not map out onto putatively parallel debates about immigration. Although many Americans now have dual citizenship on both sides of the southern border, Mexico does not cast a long shadow on the question. Powerful constituencies across the political board accept the quiet transformation of the status from anomaly to commonplace.That’s as it should be. Dual citizenship poses few concrete problems as the world moves away from zero-sum competition among states. Acceptance of the status allows the many individuals with multiple national attachments to actuate those identities. In this respect, dual citizenship represents a kind of freedom of association, a form of voluntary affiliation to be protected, not condemned.
explain to me how one person with two separate citizenships can be loyal to both countries equally it ain’t possible one will always come first.
Just think if Obama didn’t let her and her family into this country they would all be slaves to their war lords or dead
She came here in 1995.
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Which of your children do you love more? You should have to pick just one to be loyal to, to show love to, and to support and admire.
The elites aren't into loyalty to Nations, they are all globalists. Loyalty to Nations is an impediment to their plans for everyone. the nationalist resistance is still forming, the existing laws have been made by internationalists and their judges.
Trump is there first US president since Reagan who isn't embarrassed by the USA. Obama's first act was to go on his apology tour. Ugh.
Having two countries to choose from is NOT like choosing a favorite child. Loyalty to a nation is more like loyalty to one spouse. You have to choose which person to marry.
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Congresswoman Lowrey (D-Jewess) should at the very least. As a first step toward purging them from Congress, and then from most professions. Somalia has a population of nearly 15 million. If we can get rid of a couple million Jews by simple persecution, we can import a couple million Somalis who would be immediately employed. And no, they wouldn't be unqualified, the nature of the jobs and products supplied would simply be altered to comport with the tenets of their belief system. Which the country will have to do in any event. But it will be a while till Christians can be attacked more directly. Till then, death to Israel and Zionism. death to the USA too, but best expressed more quietly for now.
She’s a perfect case of why The USA and Islam don’t mix, in fact are diametrically opposed. Her loyalty will always be In ‘political’ Islam first and above any nation....Islam does not recognize borders which is why she makes her argument but hides the true reason she’s objecting....smoke and mirrors all the way is truly deep in this one.
No, she's a bigot echoing typical antisemitic tripe. I seriously doubt Congresswoman Lowey ever became an Israeli citizen. Shes an American citizen who happens to be a Jew, which to some connotes disloyalty. Like Catholics, who we all know are loyal to the Pope. Fortunately that bias has largely disappeared.
As to dual citizenship, that's a function of the other country, not the US. A Mexican moving to the US legally, and becoming a US citizen is still a Mexican citizen. It would be nice if they renounced their Mexican citizenship, but that's not always possible. As in the draft dodgers who fled to Canada. They could become Canadian citizens, but the US would not allow them to renounce their US citizenship. Which would have been convenient to avoid prosecution. Many countries place restrictions on renunciation, or don't allow it at all. Since Ilhan is talking about Israel, an Israeli citizen can only renounce citizenship for a brief period before (after?) reaching 18, or after reaching an age, around 40, mandating military service. I don't believe Cuba allows renunciation at all. In many cases dual citizenship is simply accidental, by birth or immigration.
Since we're on Ilhan, a quick look appears to indicate that Somalia has allowed dual citizenship since 2012. I don't know their laws, but it's quite possible she's a US-Somalia dual citizen. Wonder if she's renounced.
My point is a person should not be allowed to vote in two places. I'd add that anyone in elected office should not be a dual citizen.
As it stands now, we have people from a lot of nationalities in important US positions who aren't really representing us. Nikki Haley comes to mind.
She just keeps digging deeper.
I agree completely about voting. Most states you must be a resident for a period of time to vote. Might be a short period of time, but a resident. Same rule should apply. I've no concerns about Nikki Haley. She's a citizen, born here, just like Hillary and others. Disagreeing with her politically is a different matter.
You're missing the point concentrating on dual citizenship, which isn't a real issue in the context of Omar's accusations. The issue is loyalty. Naturalized citizens swear to support the Constitution and renounce allegiance and fidelity to any foreign entity, including those which might be of their origin. Do they, all of them, I don't know. But it's an issue that's been litigated often. And which, of course, doesn't apply to illegals. But the loyalty issue is far more significant than the canard of dual citizenship, though much more difficult to address short of individuals who, as US citizens, serve our enemies.
I don't know how much people think about that. Rahm Emanuel did. Though born here, he had Israeli citizenship through his parents, and knew to renounce it before being subject to military service. I doubt Cruz thought about it. Obama I agree the birther issue was a distraction, though my understanding is he might have been a Brit, an Indonesion, both or neither. But he didn't bother to renounce anything, just in case. But as I noted, it would have been his parentage rather than his actions. And there were so many more important issues to discuss which didn't play into his hands. Consider the example of Cuba I alluded to, though there are others. Would you deny the right to serve in Congress to a Cuban immigrant because the Castros wouldn't allow renunciation.
You are correct.
I would want the person to publicly renounce and sign some kind of notarized document that they had no intention of regarding themselves as citizens of the other country that granted them citizenship. That they would not vote there, get passports from there, take tax breaks from there, promote the interests of that country etc.
Dual citizenship, globally, plays into the hands of those who want a global government and to blur to extinction national boundaries.
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