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To: Paladin2
Are illegals supposed to, by law, be counted in the Census?

The Constitution doesn't distinguish, so yes.

"Representatives shall be apportioned among the several States according to their respective numbers, counting the whole number of persons in each State, excluding Indians not taxed."

9 posted on 03/07/2019 9:15:39 AM PST by semimojo
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To: semimojo

What do Census Bureaucracy rules say?


11 posted on 03/07/2019 9:19:42 AM PST by Paladin2
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To: semimojo; Paladin2

You’re off. When writing, enacting, applying a body of law, the original context carries forward to all subsequent sections.

Section 1 of the 14th Amendment lays out the context for the entire amendment. The context stays the same throughout.


26 posted on 03/07/2019 9:33:22 AM PST by Hostage (Article V)
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To: semimojo

counting the whole number of persons in each State, excluding Indians not taxed.”
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Illegals aren’t taxed, either.


28 posted on 03/07/2019 9:33:40 AM PST by shelterguy
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To: semimojo

“excluding Indians not taxed”

Inasmuch as illegal immigrants from Latin America are mostly of Indian genetic inheritance and mostly net tax-consumers rather than taxpayers I think a case can be made for excluding them in determining House apportionment.


47 posted on 03/07/2019 10:13:16 AM PST by John Semmens
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To: semimojo
... excluding Indians not taxed."

Mexicans are predominantly of native american extract of an aztec strain. Since they are illegally here, they are not taxed. Constitution intent: don't count non-citizens that aren't part of mainstream American society.

48 posted on 03/07/2019 10:14:20 AM PST by pepsi_junkie (Often wrong, but never in doubt!)
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To: semimojo

“Excluding Indians not taxed” could be used to make a good case for including the question. Indians not taxed were excluded as they were not citizens - that is, they were beholden to another government, not the US government first. That was one of the reasons the question was included until the Democrats started to complain that it was hindering their take over plans.


50 posted on 03/07/2019 10:19:23 AM PST by Ingtar
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To: semimojo

All the illegals need to submit to a DNA test if they want to be counted.

Also, for the purpose of state legislatures, it is a constitutional requirement (equal protection of the laws).

It would be prohibitively expensive for each state to conduct its own census.


85 posted on 03/07/2019 6:00:42 PM PST by scrabblehack
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To: semimojo

The court did rule on that but the fact that illegals are present in the census is conveniently ignored.


86 posted on 03/07/2019 6:02:02 PM PST by scrabblehack
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To: semimojo

I would argue that by virtue of the fact that these people are here illegally, they shouldn’t be counted. The Constitution wouldn’t distinguish them because our founders were textualists.....the law is what the law says, not one someone feels or what they believe the intent was of those who crafted the law. IOW, you can’t count what’s not here and according to the law, they would have been deported.


91 posted on 03/07/2019 6:41:07 PM PST by liberalh8ter (The only difference between flash mob 'urban yutes' and U.S. politicians is the hoodies.)
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