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1 posted on 03/28/2019 9:37:54 AM PDT by Jyotishi
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Of course not. It plays into the leftist’ hands


2 posted on 03/28/2019 9:39:05 AM PDT by Skywise
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Time to stock up on Rubber Bands and Springs.


3 posted on 03/28/2019 9:40:49 AM PDT by Kickass Conservative (Democracy, two Wolves and one Sheep deciding what's for Dinner.)
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Who expects justice in this country anymore?


4 posted on 03/28/2019 9:42:01 AM PDT by Bonemaker (invictus maneo)
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Will I have to give up my belt??


6 posted on 03/28/2019 9:43:12 AM PDT by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you . They)
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It is rare for a case to be granted an emergency stay so don’t read too much into this. The case is still going forward.


7 posted on 03/28/2019 9:43:20 AM PDT by taxcontrol (Stupid should hurt - Dad's wisdom)
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The whole bump stock thing was a red herring anyway. Serious gun enthusiasts think they are stupid. It was one of the rare Trump Caving moments, where he gave up, for all intentions, nothing. Bump stocks are amusing - but dangerous - toys, used primarily to wildly spray a lot of ammo in a fairly short period of time.


8 posted on 03/28/2019 9:44:14 AM PDT by cuban leaf
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Guess they should ban super chargers and turbo kits on sports cars....I mean, if it saves one life and all...….


15 posted on 03/28/2019 9:59:26 AM PDT by DCBryan1 (Quit calling them liberals, progs, socialists, or democrats. Call them what they are: COMMUNISTS!!!!)
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Bump


19 posted on 03/28/2019 10:13:27 AM PDT by Berlin_Freeper
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America as a republic, following the Constitution and rule of law is long dead. We are now simply governed by the whims of individuals. I call it “Jeopardy government”. They do whatever they please, but they have to use sophistry and word games to make it sound “constitutional”.

With this precedent, The next Dem president is now free to “deem” all semi-autos as machine guns with an executive order.
It will happen, mark my words.


21 posted on 03/28/2019 10:26:57 AM PDT by DesertRhino (Dog is man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up. ....)
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*sigh* Well, time for another trip to the lake.


23 posted on 03/28/2019 10:33:41 AM PDT by bk1000 (I stand with Trump)
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Find a better hill to die on.

Bump stocks turn a semi-automatic weapon into an automatic weapon (almost).

Don’t give me that one trigger pull BS. A bump stock is just a way to try to get around the law. WHY? If rubber bands really work, then what’s the beef? Rubber bands are still LEGAL!

Getting all upset about bump stocks just makes people look foolish.

Start looking for a better hill, this battle is already lost, as it should be. It was a silly, meaningless battle anyway.

Oh, that isn’t a camel’s nose, it’s a mouse’s.


45 posted on 03/28/2019 11:19:52 AM PDT by faucetman (Just the facts, ma'am, Just the facts)
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OK, everyone, let’s take a deep breath. Here’s my take on this whole thing:

1) Bumpstocks are NOT machine guns, because they do NOT achieve multiple shots from a single pull of the trigger;

2) This ruling was NOT on the substance of the issue, i.e. “is a bump stock a machine gun, and thus subject to the [unconstitutional] 1934 NFA?” - no, this ruling was ONLY a procedural matter, and ONLY about whether or not there will be a temporary stay on the ban. The substantive case is yet to be heard.

3) See #1. It is quite probable that the USSC, which is VERY hung up on the words of a statute (for obvious reasons) will find that a bump stock does NOT meet the definition of a “machine gun” under existing law. They will also find (once again) that mere agencies of the Executive Branch are utterly without power to make new law, only to enforce existing law in a manner consistent with that law and the Constitution. It is a GUARANTEE that the prior letter from the BAT Phuckers, stating very clearly why a bump stock is NOT a machine gun, will be entered into the record [so that we will not have another “US v. Miller” fiasco where the Court could say that “...it is not within judicial notice that...” a bump stock is not a machine gun].

4) While I understand the strategy of “sacrificing” bump stocks to prevent something worse from being enacted into law, I vigorously disagree with it. The anti-gun crowd has NEVER, NOT ONE SINGLE TIME, given anything to us - they only “generously” and with great reluctance, agree to take less of our rights away. Take a look at Law Dog’s “Gun Rights Cake Analogy” for the long and sordid history of this phenomenon: http://thelawdogfiles.blogspot.com/2017/10/gun-rights-cake-analogy.html

5) Trump is NOT likely to lose in 2020, not with the economy humming and the MuleHead report exonerating him of any collusion with the Russkies...and not with the Dems trying every single day to out-Commie the rest of the 589 Presidential candidates - people are looking at them like a bunch of nuts, which is a correct (if incomplete) analysis.

6) I, personally, don’t care for bump stocks and don’t own one - mainly because aimed fire with such a device is very difficult (and I’m not going to spend several $K trying to master the device and burning out my barrel). Nope, I’ll take well-aimed, semi-auto fire every time. BUT, the 2nd Amendment protects ALL arms, and I think that it is the civic duty of everyone to fight for all of the arms out there, even if we don’t own or want them - as Franklin said, “Either we all hang together, or surely we shall all hang separately.” Thus, I think that we need a victory in the Court on this issue, just to prove the point that no agency can make law, and that an entire class of weapons cannot simply be outlawed or be made highly restricted.

In conclusion: While I disagree with this ruling, it is not on a substantive matter (that will come later). While many disagree on the issue of whether to “die on this hill” of bump stocks or not due to their desire to own one or not, it is my opinion that we must fight on this issue (or, more practically, help those in the best position to fight to do so) as it involves the making of new federal law that is not merely unconstitutional in substance, but made by a regulatory agency that has no power under our Constitution to make ANY law.


50 posted on 03/28/2019 1:00:19 PM PDT by Ancesthntr ("The right to buy weapons is the right to be free." A. E. van Vogt, The Weapons Shops of Isher)
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Trump should be trying to expose the sudden rise in suspicious mass shootings that started after Obama got elected, and remove this stupid ban on bump stocks. These shootings look like false flag attacks to me. A lot of people in our intelligence agencies are fighting Trump tooth and nail, because they would hang if their crimes are exposed.

A lot of these scumbags worked in the Bush administration as well. They can probably expose the Bush family, along with others in the republican establishment, for serious crimes. That's why I have doubts about Barr punishing anyone. I'm afraid he's only negotiated a truce to keep the serious criminal activity committed under the Bush and Obama administrations from becoming public. I think Lindsey Graham approached Trump with some kind of deal on behalf of the establishment. Trump couldn't build a capable cabinet outside of the establishment. They destroyed almost everyone who was a possible threat to them in his administration.

I'm not sure if Sessions role was planned from the beginning, or if he didn't understand what he was getting himself into. He could have been blackmailed as well. Brennan got caught spying on the senate under Obama. We have a serious problem with deep state. We have the votes, but not the candidates. They know how to destroy people. Trump is a rare exception. He sent them into a panic, but they've taken out many of his allies, and he can't do everything on his own.

53 posted on 03/28/2019 2:49:47 PM PDT by LeeClementineKenny (DECONSTRUCT THE DEEP STATE!!! - BUILD THE WALL!!! - TRUMP 2020!!! - MAGA!!! - www.DonaldJTrump.com)
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Not “bump stocks”. Without those how ever will stop the upcoming dictatorship.

Never mind. I’ll go full bed wetting over the slippery slope and light my hair on fire.


54 posted on 03/28/2019 4:01:53 PM PDT by guido911 (all)
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Well I’m not for this ban!!!


58 posted on 03/28/2019 6:23:42 PM PDT by tallyhoe
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Bump stocks slide down a slippery slope


76 posted on 04/05/2019 10:11:59 PM PDT by KTM rider ( .......than to post and remove all doubt)
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