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Sony to move European HQ from London to Amsterdam to avoid Brexit disruption
iNews ^ | 19 January 2019 | BEnjamin Butterworth

Posted on 04/02/2019 9:49:26 PM PDT by Cronos

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To: Cronos

Do people still buy transistor radios and cd players?
They bought studio catalogs and don’t have to press LPs or CDs for the majority of money those intellectual properies are bringing in.


21 posted on 04/03/2019 5:12:50 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (Denounce DUAC - The Democrats Un-American Activists Committee)
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To: a fool in paradise

Sony Europe seems to make deals with distributors for movies but also heavily sells TVs, radios, videos, phones etc.


22 posted on 04/03/2019 5:43:07 AM PDT by Cronos (Brexit: leave means leave, even if it ruins you. England-Wales out of the EU!!)
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To: Cronos

If this was 1985 and everyone was still hung-up on their Trinitrons and Walkmans, this might be a story.


23 posted on 04/03/2019 5:54:40 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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If this was 1985 and everyone was still hung-up on their Trinitrons and Walkmans, this might be a story.

Good point, they are like Eastman Kodak. And last I looked my film camera has an inch of dust on it.

24 posted on 04/03/2019 5:57:19 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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To: Cronos
That's terrible!

I mean who could live without Sony's wonderful TVs, VCRs, walkman, blank tape, radios, cassette players, etc. Actually, come to think of it, what the heck do they make these days? Oh, they control 1% of the cell phone market. Awesome! Well, anyway, I could live without Sony.

Sony went downhill when then moved their production from Japan to China.
 

25 posted on 04/03/2019 6:07:43 AM PDT by Governor Dinwiddie
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To: Still Thinking

Ding! But of course he feels compelled to do all he can to get Project Fear Part II cranked up.

If Britain becomes free again, I expect there to be an adjustment period. Most Brits expect it. After that though, I think Britain will do better than if it had stayed in. They’ll certainly shield themselves from the coming crack up of the EU.


26 posted on 04/03/2019 6:49:39 AM PDT by FLT-bird
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To: OrangeHoof

Belgium after Nexit.


27 posted on 04/03/2019 6:50:22 AM PDT by aspasia
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To: Buckeye McFrog

hmmm... Sony now made OLEDs, home theatres, projectors, speakers, headphones, cameras, mobile phones, playstation gaming consoles, etc


28 posted on 04/03/2019 6:58:30 AM PDT by Cronos (Brexit: leave means leave, even if it ruins you. England-Wales out of the EU!!)
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To: Governor Dinwiddie

playstations etc. from Sony. They still make a ton

The shifting to Amsterdam will shift tax revenues from the UK


29 posted on 04/03/2019 7:04:27 AM PDT by Cronos (Brexit: leave means leave, even if it ruins you. England-Wales out of the EU!!)
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To: FLT-bird

Britain is free now.

You expect there to be an adjustment period, but most Brits who voted leave don’t - and that’s another failure on the part of the referendum. There will be adjustment, a deep dive in GDP etc. If people accept it and are prepared for it, fine. But most aren’t and the government definitely isn’t.


30 posted on 04/03/2019 7:06:29 AM PDT by Cronos (Brexit: leave means leave, even if it ruins you. England-Wales out of the EU!!)
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To: Cronos

Britain’s not free now. It will be free once Brussels no longer gets to dictate to it and British voters can fire those who pass the laws they must live under.


31 posted on 04/03/2019 7:20:52 AM PDT by FLT-bird
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1. Brussels doesn’t dictate to it - the UK got lots of opt-outs like the Euro, Schengen, etc. etc.

2. British voters can already fire those who pass the laws they must live under:
2.1. they vote in 73 Members of the European Parliament - one of which is Nigel Farage
2.2 they vote in their own members of parliament who vote on how to convert the EU parliament ideas into UK laws.

So they are free now.


32 posted on 04/03/2019 8:00:24 AM PDT by Cronos (Brexit: leave means leave, even if it ruins you. England-Wales out of the EU!!)
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Brussels does dictate to it. Brussels bureaucrats pass a blizzard of rules and regulations everybody in the EU must follow and unlike MPs, that cannot be fired by the people in elections. If Britain regains its independence, that ends.


33 posted on 04/03/2019 8:10:59 AM PDT by FLT-bird
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1. Brussels bureaucrats don’t pass a blizzard - the rules are about the same as those of the USA

2. Every country is expected to review the suggestions from the EU and implement how they interpret it — the UK consistently goldplates EU laws — The UK Department for Business, Innovation and Skills gave the Agency Workers Regulations 2010 as an example of gold-plated EU legislation, because it had granted temporary workers the right to performance-related bonuses, something that was not in the original EU law, which dealt with “the right to the same pay as permanent staff”

3. The EU bureaucrats can be fired by the EU council or the EU parliament. This is no different than civil servants in the UK or USA. Are civil servants in the UK elected? No. Neither is Juncker elected - he is placed there at the will of the EU parliament and Council.


34 posted on 04/03/2019 8:28:23 AM PDT by Cronos (Brexit: leave means leave, even if it ruins you. England-Wales out of the EU!!)
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Lets elaborate on your”cannot be fired by the people”. The EU commissioners are nominated by the eu council oe the heads of government of the eu countries like May, Merkel, Macron, Macierewicz etc and appointed by the eu parliament which is composed of people directly elected by the people.

This is kinda like the President appointing his civil servants.

I don’t hear anyone objecting that British or American civil servants are not elected.

And the brits have their entire upper house who are not elected.

and the connisioners CAN be fired. The eu parliament has to pass a no confidence motion and out they go. They almost did it yo the Santer commission because of the Edith Cresson scandal. Santer resigned before it could come to pass


35 posted on 04/03/2019 9:02:28 AM PDT by Cronos (Brexit: leave means leave, even if it ruins you. England-Wales out of the EU!!)
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The Brits make up a tiny minority on both the EU Council and of the EU Parliament. In any event, many issues within the EU are decided by bureaucrats rather than by elected officials.

So no, the British people do not currently have the ability to fire the people who are making a lot of the rules and regulations they have to live under.

I am FAR from the first to note that bureaucrats make a lot of the laws in the EU and that they really aren’t held accountable - part of the “democratic deficit” that has gotten so much attention.

Even if they were as accountable to elected officials as you are trying to portray, Britain’s representatives are but a tiny minority. If Britain were to leave and become an independent country with full sovereignty again, far more of these matters would be decided by elected officials again - as is the norm in Anglo/Saxon countries - and the British people could fire them for the laws they pass.


36 posted on 04/03/2019 11:39:03 AM PDT by FLT-bird
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Every country in the EU makes a tiny minority of one in the EU council.

Every country gets exactly one vote in the EU council. So they form alliances and the UK had a lot of alliances with central European states.

And the UK has 73 members of parliament. And most of those wih the exception of Farage, formes alliances with likeminded other members of the European parliament.

The British have as much right to fire Junclers as every other country meps. As I said there is precedence of a ru commission being “voted out” but they resigned bfir it came to this.

Or do you think that California doesn’t have enough weight in the American government becaus eit is outweighed by conservative states in the senate and in congress?


37 posted on 04/03/2019 11:48:46 AM PDT by Cronos (Brexit: leave means leave, even if it ruins you. England-Wales out of the EU!!)
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1. I disagree AND most Americans hate how much regulation is passed in imperial Washington.

2. The UK promptly and completely actually tries to comply with laws. This is again, a hallmark of Anglo-Saxon countries. A lighter regulatory touch but fairly strict enforcement. What Brits have been getting is the worst of both worlds - the heavier regulation of the continent but without the lax attitude and foot dragging that characterizes several continental member states.

3. As is typical of the continent but not typical of Anglo-Saxon countries, there are far more bureaucrats in the EU and they have leeway to decide much more than is typically allowed by bureaucracies in Anglo-Saxon countries. This is part tradition and habit for the continent and part conscious design by Yurp elites. They deliberately wanted a system in which technocrats would effectively make policy (overwhelmingly with a bent toward more centralization of power in Brussels hands) and take a lot of what would otherwise be political questions out of politicians’ hands. The politicians could then go to their voters and say they had not made this or that unpopular law or regulation. This is diametrically opposed to the kind of transparency and accountability that has long been standard in Anglo-Saxon countries.


38 posted on 04/03/2019 11:49:50 AM PDT by FLT-bird
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Yes and this means British voters do not have effective control - which was my point all along.

If California wanted to secede, I’d be all in favor of it. Hell, I’d invite them to take Hawaii and New England with them.


39 posted on 04/03/2019 11:53:38 AM PDT by FLT-bird
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Of course they have effective control. They vote for meps who can chucl out juncker. Similarly they vote for mps who can vote out sir humphrey.

No difference.


40 posted on 04/03/2019 12:04:49 PM PDT by Cronos (Brexit: leave means leave, even if it ruins you. England-Wales out of the EU!!)
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